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    Posted: 06/20/2013 at 5:40pm
You be very careful with Azinoth, he is a member of this forum that is dedicated to defraud and cheat to get money, I've bought a wood, I sent the money and once he received it, he has gone, he does not answer my private messages.



After two weeks I try to see if I was answering private messages with another user name, I create a new profile here and I send a message, he replied quickly, he was looking for a wood and I offered it to him , he told me he wanted a change and he offered me the wood that I had bought to him and that he had not sent me, so 60 euros lost.

Modus operandi: he offers you what you are looking for, but he not got that blade really, he prefer trades blade by blade, or 2 blade by his blade (epensive blade).



If this person offers you a trade or sell you some materials, not to buy it and send him money, you will lose it.



I've reported to the police and I'm waiting they call me to see what we can do.



He will have more of one profile here so a lot care to count it, I give you your data in case someone in the forum knows or is doing business with him, his name and address he gave me to send him money by western union is:



Ciolan Vlad Cosmin

Lunca Centatuii 94

707085 Iasi Ciurea

ROMANIA



Other possible name for him is DAVID DORIN, he was telling us he is english. He could give us the name of his teammate, for the money transfer. They both plays in same romanian table tennis team. His name and adress is:



David Dorin

Barlad

Romania



Their nicknames here could be:

Andrei2412
Azinoth
TopSpinNinja
Vladd
Radu668

Here this person sell all the stuff he had scammed here:

http://www.tenisdemasa.ro/forum/showthread.php?9302-Vand-Adeziv-Fete-Lemne

Look it and find if its there what he scammed you.

If anyone knows anything more about him please tell me that you have data to better catch him

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bulgarians, romanians, albanians are the worst. I have sword never to do business with them again. I am bulgarian myself and every time I have business with my own people I am defrauded. I wouldn't send one dollar to any of those if they promised to send me a brand new SUPER ZLC. Not even if they have feedback. I just don't care any more. Hoping you have better luck than me and are able to recover something.. One day I will get a hold of one of these scammers and god help me I will just beat him unconscions and then I will beat him some more.
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Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

bulgarians, romanians, albanians are the worst. I have sword never to do business with them again. I am bulgarian myself and every time I have business with my own people I am defrauded. I wouldn't send one dollar to any of those if they promised to send me a brand new SUPER ZLC. Not even if they have feedback. I just don't care any more. Hoping you have better luck than me and are able to recover something.. One day I will get a hold of one of these scammers and god help me I will just beat him unconscions and then I will beat him some more.


How about NOT generalizing like that. I dealt with a bunch of buyers/sellers from Ukraine, Bulgaria, Russia and never once was deceived. Granted, I only buy/sell to well-known reliable forummers - that was, I think, main mistake of the OP. Another one was using WU instead of PP - I doubt that WU can help there, although who knows.
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He offered me a Yasaka YEO at a really attractive price. He told me that he is UK national but currently lived in Romania.  He asked me to send money through Western Union.  My experience is telling me there is something really fishy there.  I told him that I only transfer money through PAYPAL, not Western Union.  I never heard from him since then.  
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What if he uses a different user name? How could you tell?
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Originally posted by danieldangz danieldangz wrote:

He offered me a Yasaka YEO at a really attractive price. He told me that he is UK national but currently lived in Romania.  He asked me to send money through Western Union.  My experience is telling me there is something really fishy there.  I told him that I only transfer money through PAYPAL, not Western Union.  I never heard from him since then.  


That is what he did to me, he first asked me something of warcraft to send to him but after he asked me money by western union, i think he say he is british for take more confidence in us. You did well, me no...
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Originally posted by W0LovePP W0LovePP wrote:

What if he uses a different user name? How could you tell?

when he ask you that you send money by western union he has to tell you his real name, take care and write his name to check it when you make a transfer. its the only thing i can say, sorry...
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

bulgarians, romanians, albanians are the worst. I have sword never to do business with them again. I am bulgarian myself and every time I have business with my own people I am defrauded. I wouldn't send one dollar to any of those if they promised to send me a brand new SUPER ZLC. Not even if they have feedback. I just don't care any more. Hoping you have better luck than me and are able to recover something.. One day I will get a hold of one of these scammers and god help me I will just beat him unconscions and then I will beat him some more.


How about NOT generalizing like that. I dealt with a bunch of buyers/sellers from Ukraine, Bulgaria, Russia and never once was deceived. Granted, I only buy/sell to well-known reliable forummers - that was, I think, main mistake of the OP. Another one was using WU instead of PP - I doubt that WU can help there, although who knows.
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Originally posted by danieldangz danieldangz wrote:

He offered me a Yasaka YEO at a really attractive price. He told me that he is UK national but currently lived in Romania.  He asked me to send money through Western Union.  My experience is telling me there is something really fishy there.  I told him that I only transfer money through PAYPAL, not Western Union.  I never heard from him since then.  
I tried to buy an used Keyshot Light ST from her and she asked me to pay via Western Union (she told me that she was english, but living in Rumania). I had several problems to pay, i don´t know why, my bank did not make the transfer. I thought that there was not enough money in my account but that was not the problem. I asked her to pay via paypal and it was impossible. So we did not come to terms.
Some days later, she asked me to buy a blade from iruiru and send it to her, and she would send the Keyshot Light for me in exchange. I didn´t see it clear so i told her that i was not interested in that deal.
If anyone wants to check if she is a reliable seller, i would ask her to send the blade first, and when i get it, i would pay. Yes, i know that is not the normal way to proceed but we´ve read some suspicious things here...
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Xu Xin, beware those sleazy Bulgarians! Wink
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This is why the forum should seriously discourage the use of Paypal gift and Western Union.
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ive found this on internet:

http://tenisdemasaiasi.ro/index.php/component/joomleague/player/1-campionatul-judetean/12-max-satelit/723-vlad-cosmin-ciolan

this is his account on a rumanian table tennis page
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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

Xu Xin, beware those sleazy Bulgarians! Wink
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... and more importantly, where exactly is the bald dude's left hand???

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his team is MAX SATELIT from Iasi, and i saw in that page that there is a member tema with no rumanian name, this name could be his real name also, because he says he is british, the name is DAVID DORIN, someone knows this name???

http://tenisdemasaiasi.ro/index.php/component/joomleague/roster/1-campionatul-judetean/12-max-satelit
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Xuxin needs to cut his nails.
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Originally posted by tsanyc tsanyc wrote:

Xuxin needs to cut his nails.

Please dont joke with this post, i have to left to play now because i have no blade and i have no money for to buy a blade...
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Originally posted by Antuan Antuan wrote:

 I tried to buy an used Keyshot Light ST from her and she asked me to pay via Western Union (she told me that she was english, but living in Rumania). I had several problems to pay, i don´t know why, my bank did not make the transfer. I thought that there was not enough money in my account but that was not the problem. I asked her to pay via paypal and it was impossible. So we did not come to terms.
Some days later, she asked me to buy a blade from iruiru and send it to her, and she would send the Keyshot Light for me in exchange. I didn´t see it clear so i told her that i was not interested in that deal.
If anyone wants to check if she is a reliable seller, i would ask her to send the blade first, and when i get it, i would pay. Yes, i know that is not the normal way to proceed but we´ve read some suspicious things here...

I never have problem trusting people through out the years.  Never have single problem buying and selling stuffs.  But on the safe side, I just do transaction through paypal (not gift option).  It is safe for both parties


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im looking for information about him and i found that he give diferent information in diferent places, here he say he is 21 yo, but in his skype account he says 27 yo, there is a telephone number in skype account it is +44756434325 from where is this telephone number???, its a man or a woman???
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Sounds like a Manuel Vásquez Montalbán's Detective Pepe Carvalho type of investigation!!!!

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Originally posted by Gauguin Gauguin wrote:

Sounds like a Manuel Montalbán type of investigation!!!!

Dont joke with this man, i have to try to do everything what i can do to take my money back or the blade, because i dont want to stop to play table tennis.
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im starting to think that he is DAVID DORIN, and he uses his teammate for take the money and he dont be in problems, the only thing i can say to others forum members is that if someone from city of Iasi (Romania) want to make some deal or trade, dont send money or blades to him, you will lose everithing you send him.
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+44 is default Skype number. Besides, you can enter any number you want in your Skype profile settings and the entered number will be shown at the reciever's display.
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+44 is default Skype number. Besides, you can enter any number you want in your Skype profile settings and the entered number will be shown at the reciever's display.

Yes i know it... but im trying to do anything i can do... +44 is a United kingdom number also, but it can be false, im waiting that the forum members that he tryed to steal, to say to me the information he gave to they, i hope can do more...
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i found him in facebook thanks to a forum member, david dorin not live in Iasi, he lives in Barlad or something near, also in Romania, i think he give us the name of his teammate as i said before... Be very Careful with this two people.
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Hi Julian.
Member Mahmood is from Iasi,im sell him on september 2012 blade with rubber-without problem,but he has arabian name,no romanien.
PM Mahmood,can you help.Wink
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Originally posted by TibiKE TibiKE wrote:

Hi Julian.Member Mahmood is from Iasi,im sell him on september 2012 blade with rubber-without problem,but he has arabian name,no romanien.PM Mahmood,can you help.Wink

Thank you Tibi, i think the person from Iasi is only a intermediate to take the money, he is his teammate i think, well i need the blade or the money, now i have no blade and i have no money to buy one... im going to send Mahmood pm now, thanks again
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Not all Romanians are the same. This guy deserves to be jailed. I'm not from Iasi but I can try to help. I'll post this link into a Romanian table tennis forum (the best in the country) and maybe someone can deliver some more information about this charlatan.

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Originally posted by CornelTT CornelTT wrote:

I'm ashamed to be a Romanian (it wasn't my choice anyway). But, not all Romanians are the same. This guy deserves to be jailed. I'm not from Iasi but I can try to help. I'll post this link into a Romanian table tennis forum (the best in the country) and maybe someone can deliver some more information about this charlatan.

thank you very very much, i would like all this things we do can help me to get the blade or my money back, but i think its imposible. David dorin is not living in Iasi, read the first post there is all information i got, thanks again
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Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

bulgarians, romanians, albanians are the worst. I have sword never to do business with them again. I am bulgarian myself and every time I have business with my own people I am defrauded. I wouldn't send one dollar to any of those if they promised to send me a brand new SUPER ZLC. Not even if they have feedback. I just don't care any more. Hoping you have better luck than me and are able to recover something.. One day I will get a hold of one of these scammers and god help me I will just beat him unconscions and then I will beat him some more.


How about NOT generalizing like that. I dealt with a bunch of buyers/sellers from Ukraine, Bulgaria, Russia and never once was deceived. Granted, I only buy/sell to well-known reliable forummers - that was, I think, main mistake of the OP. Another one was using WU instead of PP - I doubt that WU can help there, although who knows.
yeah, you keep spinning that russian rullette and see where that takes u

Yep, don't risk it. Just don't deal with Bulgarians, especially assiduous.
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Barlad is a city in a Romanian county named Vaslui. I posted a link to this subject in the Romanian forum and asked especially the mates in Iasi and Vaslui, if they have some information about this guy/or guys to contact me. I try to help, but is difficult. Here in Romania on the table tennis forum it was a similar case (someone paid for a blade a received another). The charlatan delivered correct data when he registered on the forum and it was easy to identify him. When threaten with police, he paid the money back. In your case, it seems difficult to identify who the guy really is. If a have more information, I'll contact you back.
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