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    Posted: 01/01/2007 at 5:10pm

i am looking to try  a sp i just want to still be able to put some spin on the ball what is the best sp that gets you the most spin and the most speed combo it dosent have to be the fastest sp or the spinniest but the but of both worlds

i have a couple blades that i play i have a

 xi en ting shark carbon ti ceramic and is the fastest blade i have ever seen it is scary fast

then i have a 729 bomb it is my fall back great blade for what ever

and i just got a ltk xc allthough it says control the blade has good speed

i have tried the 802-40 and really liked it but that is the only short pip that i have tried so was wondering if anything is better.

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I heard that Clipper was spinny enough to act like inverted, Radical more so. However the best pips were TSP-Spinpips, if they've made a replacement for them get those instead.
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802-40 is the spinniest short pips I've ever used.  I have a dawei pip that's right up there or maybe more, but I'm out of stock for a week or two.
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I've tried several in the last year and the one I went with was Juic Masterspin and I liked it a lot.  I could play a controled topspin game with it and with Neubauer Long Pips on my BH, I went from 982 a year ago to over 1700...I just recently switched to smooth rubber on my forehand...Joola Energy Green, because my forehand had gotten good enough to handle a bit more speed and spin but I would definately recommend the Masterspin for a short pip forehand...I liked it better than Neubauer Leopard and Pistol and 802...also tried a couple others as well...

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Anyone tried butterfly flarestorm or raystorm which are supposedly high tension?

Flarestorm seems like a pretty sweet rubber to me.

Anyways, I have tried 802-40 and I thought that those pips were very good. I have also tried TSP spin-pips which are also pretty sweet. However I believe that I heard somewhere that the spin pips have the same topsheet as the 802-40. I also tried yasaka pb-1 and they were good in terms of speed and spin but not as good as 802-40. Go to Speedy`s review site (I don`t know the link but you can probably find it) He is one of the short pip experts and his site reviews a ton of short pips.

Anyways, any comments on the flarestorm?

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Flarestorm best for power with hard sponge get max.
If you are ph you might try a thinner one as max can be hard to block with good feeling
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I prefer a soft (like 35 degrees) thinner (like 1.8) sponge for my pips with a hard blade. Makes them easier to control and spinnier but still fast.

Joola Tango Ultra is the easiest pip I've tried for looping with and has a soft tensor sponge. Topsheet is similar to 802-40. The Dawei 388-B short pip has a grippier topsheet than 802-40 and a very soft sponge.

Raystorm is softer than Flarestorm and also has a very grippy topsheet.
Clippa and Radical are very grippy as well and Clippa has the softer sponge. Both are higher throw than the above pips, so better on a low-throw blade.

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has anyone ever tried a short pip on the back side of a cpen for rpb? just wondering if it would work because i play pen and if i got a short pip i would probably keep a smooth on one side and short pip on the other and since i like to rpb i was wondering how well it worked i would probably work fine be fast flat and have decent spin
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Originally posted by reederc reederc wrote:

has anyone ever tried a short pip on the back side of a cpen for rpb? just wondering if it would work because i play pen and if i got a short pip i would probably keep a smooth on one side and short pip on the other and since i like to rpb i was wondering how well it worked i would probably work fine be fast flat and have decent spin

 

yes theres a player that does rpb hitting in the nat team

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