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Schlager
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Also the one he is using has a metal badge, does not have the blue lines across the handle and also has carbon layers of some kind.
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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
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rui pedro81
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timo boll spark then?
http://www.butterflyonline.com/images/catalog/zoom/7048.jpg |
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AMonteiro
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For me looks like a custom made that they put TB Spark handle without any lens..
TB Spark is only Arylate and this one looks like A/C. |
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TTdreamer1982
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most of the top 20 player are using pure wood blade.
Including Ma long and Timo. You would say "hey, but I see Ma's handle is Timo Boll Spirit!!" Well....Like u just said....u saw the handle........ Same with Jun Mitzutani. I played the blade which is made for him. Got the same handle as u see that sells in TT store. But it is pure wood, light.... extremely controllable... All pros' blade are not bouncy at all. Because for attack, U will need to learn to put in strength on your own, not relying on blade. And All pros already knew how to do that. But on defense and counter attacking shots, they will have to have a extremely stable blade. During intense and powerful rallies, it is impossible to count on bouncy blades. |
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TBS9x
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Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...
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Blade: Joo Se Hyuk
Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
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TBS9x
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What does Joo use for blade? I've heard rumours that he use Matsush*ta pro alpha or matsush*ta pro with the JSH's handle. Before he used the special made diode...However, it's certain that he uses T64 and Tibhar Grass Dtecs
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Blade: Joo Se Hyuk
Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
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TTdreamer1982
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Give them a blade bought from stationary, glued with Tenergy. Believe me, when they do a drive, u still touch nothing. |
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anubhav1984
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I am sure that i have seen the blue colored ALC layers on Timo Boll's blade in one of the videos. Though i am very sure that you are correct about what you have said above, i just don't believe that they are using an all wood blade.
You should substantiate your verdict with pics to make all of us believe.
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Butterfly Viscaria FL
FH - Undecided BH - Undecided |
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Schlager
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Here's Ma Long's TBS: http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20097161571118688_G
And here's Boll's ALC: http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20091915302077018_G Both have layers of Arylate/Carbon. |
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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
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TBS9x
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Speed is not everything. Suppose all the pros are able to hit so powerful drives but then the they still can use carbon or ALC blades because if its already fast then they have to show that they are able to handle the speed in slow shot or they will be just like us, power but no control is nothing. Besides, Ma Long if he uses ALC, its possibly for the dead feeling ( little vibration ) that he wants. |
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Blade: Joo Se Hyuk
Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
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debraj
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Looks like the most popular BH rubber is: "unknown"
Where can i get a sheet? |
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saif
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Doesn't Zhang Jike use Bryce speed in his backhand? I've always known it but can't confirm the source now.
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TBS FH & BH: T05fx
Tibhar Samsonov Alpha FH: Grip-S Europe BH: Rakza7 soft Victas Koji Matsushita FH: Tenergy 80 BH: Feint long III https://www.facebook.com/groups/5439549367/ |
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Kaoendry
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I was watching some videos on dttl , anyone know why Timo is using red rubber on his FH?
He changed his rubbers? Kishikawa now uses red rubber on his FH too, in smash he change to black side to smash. |
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timoboll89
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because now there isn't disponibility of black tenergies of a certain weight...timo wrote on his site
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Leshxa
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Would this be too much to ask to list thickness of the sponge if known?
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Back to table tennis...
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dauntless
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disponibility = availibilty He is saying there aren't any blk t05 of a certain weight. I wonder what weight he is looking for... and gets! |
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1. BTY Primorac, Nittaku H3N, T64 2. BTY Primorac, H3N, Mendo MP Feedback
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IceObsession
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Pavlovich, Viktoria (BLR)
Defence Alpha Tenergy 05 1,7 mm Feint Long III Stefanova, Nikoleta (ITA) Korbel SK7 (FL) Tenergy 05 2,1 mm Tenergy 05 2,1 mm Tie Yana (HKG) Special Made Tenergy 05 2,1 mm Tenergy 05 2,1 mm Toth, Krisztina (HUN) Tenergy 64 2,1 mm Tenergy 64 2,1 mm Gao Jun (USA) Matsush*ta Pro CS Butterfly Challenger Attack |
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FH: DHS Neo Hurricane III
BH: TSP Spectol 21 Blade: TSP Limban Offensive(FL) |
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Pushblocker
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Actually, Werner Schlager's blade is actually a Primorac Carbon blade with Schalger Carbon handles
Before Butterfly made the Schlager Carbon, Werner was playing the Primorac Carbon. In order for the Schlager Carbon to be different from the Primorac Carbon, Butterfly produced the Schlager Carbon blade with a slightly thicker inner ply. This of course brought the weight up. Werner likes his blades to be exactly 91 grams and the Primorac Carbon is exactly 91 grams while the Schlager Carbon is 95 - 96 grams. So, in order for him to play with a blade with his name on, they actually put Schlager Carbon handles on a Primorac Carbon for him..
For someone at a sub world class level, I doubt that they would even notice the difference between the Primorac an Schlager Carbon blade.. They are basically identical except for the inner ply which is only slightly thicker on the Schlager Carbon.. He does NOT have a special made blade (other than the handle with his name).. It actually is a off the shelf Primorac Carbon with only the handle being difference.. His rubbers (Tenergy 05) are also off the shelf Tenergy 05 rubbers..
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ChichoFicho
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How about Jian Sun?
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Darker Speed 70
Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
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Stavros
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Interesting, Pushblocker, how do you know all these things about Schlager? |
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mjamja
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He kidnapped Schlager and forced Werner to play TT in his garage.
Actually if you read through the thread you will find they were school friends at a young age and Schalger stopped to visit Pushblocker for a few days when he came to the US for a Killerspin event.
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Stavros
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Butterfly claims that uses Primorac Carbon, Tenergy 05 and Tenergy 64.
Do you know which Tenergy uses on f/h? ----- Edit: I moved this in from a separate thread. The question was about Daniela Dodean. -Schlager |
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tokold
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I've talked to her doubles partner, Elizabeta Samara and said she plays with Tenergy 64 both sides on a Primorac carbon.
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Stavros
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Yes I see. So Werner Schlager plays Primorac Carbon with Schlager handle. |
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Schlager
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I have changed Zhang Jike's bh to Bryce Speed. I'm also pretty certain that's what he uses, but I can't remember where I saw it.
Pushblocker: That was a really interesting read! It's always fun with some inside info, and especially when it's about the player that really started my interest for TT about 7 years ago! (I have the DVD's from the 2003 WTTC and watch them whenever I get a bit tired of TT. Schlager was simply amazing through the whole tournament!) IceObsession: Again, thank you so much! Updated the first post with more female players! |
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tpgh2k
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i thought he used t64 now....you could see it in those close up pictures...or at least some kind of tenergy.
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www.youtube.com/gsutabletennis
Timo Boll Spirit FL H3 Blue Sponge Black FH Tenergy 64 Red BH |
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Schlager
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You are absolutely right..
The picture showing a white sponge and a BTY logo was old, and all pictures from the ITTF from 2010 shows an orange/red sponge. Tenergy 64 is more likely than both 05 and 25, so I'll put down T64. |
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Stavros
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Hi Dennis, You are not talking too much, 4 posts in 6 years ! |
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tokold
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Well, been kind of busy and I just happened to be asking Elizabeta the same question about a month ago.
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shaolinTT
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Does anyone know what set up (CPen) Wang Jian Jun has.
(His previous JPen set up was probably a clone of RSM's) |
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