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liulin04
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Yes, I played with 05/64 for three years, but removed them recently because they are pretty old and I didn't feel like regluing them. So instead of buying new T05/64, I opted for a cheaper rubber that I've used before, which is the Rakza 7 Soft.
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jpenmaster
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I'm still using D05 since it's release and it still plays like new. It's not a Tenergy replacement as i feel the rubbers are just too different . If you place close to the table D05 is worth a look. If you play mid distance or further out T05 is better. This is just my opinion.
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serr
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Does anyone have experience with t05h/d05 on a defensive blade like defplay? How is chopping, looping, counterlooping?
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benfb
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Just for fun, I thought I would do a closer visual inspection of the corner scraps I have from cutting sheets of T05H, T05, D05, and TO (Nittaku Turbo Orange).
Visually, the sponge on T05 and T05H looks almost the same. You can see the structure of holes in the sponge, which is very distinctive. Maybe the holes in the T05H are tiny bit smaller, but the difference is so small that it's hard to be sure. However, when you squeeze the sponges, you can really feel how much harder the T05H sponge is. Yet, even thought it's harder, the Hard version still has that same springy feel to it as the regular version. By comparison, the TO sponge is much more dense. You can't see the holes (air structure) at all. Turbo Orange is supposed to be a Hurricane 3 top sheet on top of a Japanese (Nittaku) sponge, so it's surprising how solid the TO sponge looks. And when you pinch it, it feels much less bouncy (harder and less springy) than an of the other rubbers in this list. Definitely no "spring effect." The Dignics sponge looks similar to the Tenergy sponge, with a very similar hole structure, but much smaller holes. I could almost claim that it's halfway between the look of Tenergy and that of TO (which looks almost solid). When you pinch it, it feels between T05 and T05H in hardness, but it's very similar to T05 in springiness. So I would rate them as Visual density of sponge: TO > D05 > T05H >= (meaning very close) T05 Hardness to pinch TO > T05H > D05 > T05 Springiness D05 > T05 > T05H > TO For the top sheet, visual inspection shows TO is the shiny, stick H3 top sheet. Interestingly, the D05 top sheet *looks* identical to the T05 and T05H top sheets. You can't tell the difference just be looking at them. However, if you rub your fingers on the top sheet, the D05 top sheet clearly has more grip than either Tenergy top sheet. Top sheet looks: D05 = T05 = T05H Top sheet grip by finger rubbing: D05 > T05 = T05H Don't know that any of this will help someone. I mainly did it to satisfy my own curiosity and thought I'd share the results.
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JimT
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My clubmate plays with T-05-H on one side and D-05 on the other. The setup is quite heavy but he is a very muscular guy so he doesn't care. I tried it a little and it plays fine in the attack, however, when you need some touch and careful ball handling, it is lacking, especially on T-05-H side. D-05 actually felt quite good and reliable to me but paying $95 for a rubber is something I am not going to do in the nearest future. It is not too tacky, just very grippy. However, I should notice that when he power loops against me, I have much less problem with the spin coming from his Dignics compared to what's coming from T-05-Hard - also the fast loop from T-05-H is indeed very fast and the ball dips considerably lower than with regular T-05 and D-05.
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ericd937
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That sounds about right T05H has more a flat trajectory with a heavy dip down at the end. A lot opponents had trouble against my good shots when I played that rubber, but at the same time I missed a lot more balls either into the net or long. T05H might be more dangerous in the right players hands, but its very difficult to play. D05 is a lot more consistent, reliable, and easier to control. It still has plenty of power and spin, and I win more with D05 by using placement and consistency.
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gatz
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I have used both dignics 05 and Tenergy hard. With my style of play i feel at home with tenergy hard right away am close to the table kind of player. My forehand is short pips or long pips but my backhand is inverted. I had the dignics 05 on the harimoto blade at first. Service is quite spinny and low throw, easy to flick but my problem is the consistency of my flat drive it tends to overshot same with the blocking and punch drive but to give the benefit of the doubt i put the Dignics 05 on my Zhang jike szlc it still the same and i even move it now to joola quatro carbon. I should stay with hard or medium hard kind of rubbers.
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