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rfinder4000 
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 Topic: Please, help to pick a blade!!!Posted: 12/24/2006 at 3:15pm |
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I picked up a paddle and started to fall in love with this sport since i was 5. I played until I was 17 and my family moved to US. I quit the sport since then.
It has been ten years I haven't touched a paddle so now I want to come back and I need to pick out a blade. I narrow down to 2 choices: Stiga Clipper CR and Kevlar. Clipper CR sound like a good one since I read a lot of good reviews about it. In the otherhand, I kindda like Kevlar. So please help!!! |
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7homuz
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Posted: 12/24/2006 at 3:54pm |
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no offence, but i personally think you should start with something easier to control first since you stopped for 10 years regardless of how good you used to be. just to get the feeling back, then move on to better equipment when you are ready. the clipper cr is better then kevlar, kevlar is so slow and heavy and thick. the clipper cr on the other hand is really solid, fast, and great feel. not bad in weight either.
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Carbon TT
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Posted: 12/24/2006 at 4:00pm |
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I would say, given your time off and propensity towards Stiga, try the Offensive CR. It is a "little brother" to the Clipper CR and will have many of the same qualities and characteristics.
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rfinder4000
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Posted: 12/24/2006 at 5:20pm |
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Thanks guys. So my next concern is the rubber then. You think Almana Sound(FH) and Almana(LH) would suit the Clipper CR well? I loop topspin FH and prefer thicker sponge rubber for my LH. Any other suggestion would be very appreciated!!!
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Posted: 12/24/2006 at 5:37pm |
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I almost had that exact setup. Mine was a Clipper CR with Almana Sound 2.0 on both sides. I did glue it though. Fortunately I always try my rackets without glue once for a comparison. I found (unglued) that this combo is a good high arm speed type of bat. It is good at looping topspin and even some counterlooping. The downside is, it is hard to loop underspin. The short game is fair, the rubber relies on mechanical (sponge) spin quite heavily so low impact speed strokes (serve return) don't affect it too badly. Overall it is a good racket for an advanced player that only gets better with glue. What is your level? A better choice might be Mendo (not MP) or Innova, regular Innova is very spinny rubber and still has good control. Personally, I would recomend the Innova 2.0 both sides. Whatever your choice, good luck!
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Posted: 12/24/2006 at 7:58pm |
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i'd go with the offensive cr
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Posted: 12/24/2006 at 8:59pm |
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That galaxy k5 kevlar is a very nice kevlar blade in a good offensive to off- speed range and weight around 86. I'd recommend it to anybody, although personally I prefer to feel the ball. Put a sheet of saviga on one side and palio C on saviga sponge for the other, and I'd put it up against anything like it under $120. That gambler oversized kevlar blade is pretty cool, but it's more for a modern defensive player. |
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Posted: 12/25/2006 at 11:14am |
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Anything under $120, Cole? Right now from Dandoy-Sports.com you can get a Clipper CR with Innova on both sides for $93.10, plus as an added bonus free shipping. In fact, you could even get a Optimum 7 with Magna for $117. I would go as far to argue that these products are of a much higher performance, quality, and consistancy than any chinese or american product.
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Posted: 12/25/2006 at 11:45am |
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Thanks for tips, Carbon TT!!!
I finally get to try the Clipper CR at the local club. Pretty nice blade with good feeling. However, the one i tried has Bryce(FH) and Magna(LH), feel like a very nice combo though. Anyway, should i speed glued the blade with the rubber or should i not? |
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Posted: 12/26/2006 at 2:02am |
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I was thinking more in terms of American distributor pricing when I made that claim. Dandoy's pricing is great. However I also know some people who've waited a long time to get their stuff from dandoy while nervously having their emails ignored. I know many more who didn't and had great experiences as well. I've never heard of anyone not getting their stuff eventually. Personally I'm not a big fan of innova, and clipper is too fast to be in this guy's stated range, as is magna I would guess. Remember higher performance wasn't actually part of the criteria. I never claimed it was schlager carbon with bryce. I was thinking more like korbel and f2 or something along those lines. Anyway, have you tried a K3 or saviga? I'd be willing to bet that he'd play better with K3/saviga than he would with clipper/innova unless he's well over 2000. And btw, I've played with some clippers that were total bricks. The ones the pros use have been thoroughly picked through I guarantee you. I understand what you're saying, but I really believe that the high end galaxy blades are right there with the japanese brands. I'd put my galaxy w6 with palio c over saviga sponge up against, for instance, yasaka extra with mambo x 2 and I'd bet you'd be hard pressed to tell a difference (even sound) other than the palio is grippier. I just had a very good skill player (2000+ and can barely move his legs) tell me that he liked my setup better than his kvt with markVgps. And then proceeded to buy several sheets. He would have bought the w6 too if I had brought one with me. The k5, w1, w6, and 2006 are the only blades I've tried from china that I do consider to be the same craftsmanship as the upper level japanese blades, just to be clear. So if you've tried these blades and rubbers and you don't agree, then we can just agree to disagree. But if you're making assumptions based on other chinese products you've tried, I hope sometime you'll get a chance to try these. But my guess is you were just talking off the cuff, as I was when I said that initially. |
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Posted: 12/26/2006 at 2:06am |
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If you're not a VERY good player you're doing yourself a disservice by getting this type of equipment. I don't see anyone good using this type of stuff unless they're really good, like 2200+ good US. If you're not, and not many players of that calibur are posting on here for equipment advice, I would take TT's advice and go for the offensive which is much more in line with mortal players. And yeah, I would go with regular innova or maybe mendo (probably not mp). |
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Posted: 12/27/2006 at 3:54pm |
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I'm going to second cole's motion there: I've seen US players in the 1100-1300 range actually quit TT after purchasing equipment that was too fast (Timo Boll Triple Carbon anyone?)
Basically, they could hit a couple of incredible shots per game, but made so many unforced errors that they became disillusioned with their own abilities. If you get any clipper variant, (unless you are 2200+) - pair it with some slower rubbers... One of my club-mates from New Jersey plays at 1800-1850 level and uses the Clipper Classic with F3 (slow) 2.0 FH and F3 1.8 BH WITHOUT speedglue. |
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Posted: 12/27/2006 at 10:24pm |
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Yup, the galaxy K series are good quality blades. And its for 40 something dollars.
Did they copy the stiga WRB technology?? the hole in the handle thing ..... |
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Posted: 12/27/2006 at 11:17pm |
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Thanks a lot guys. I guess it would be better off with the Clipper CR. I get to try on the Offensive CR today, I find it really nice too, but somehow it's feel a lot lighter than the Clipper CR. I refer heavier blade since it give me feel when I loop. So Innova for FH and Magna for BH should be ok???
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Posted: 01/03/2007 at 11:05am |
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I finally made up my mind to go with the Offensive CR. Unfortunately, ping-pong.com does not carry Offensive CR straight handle and paddlepalace.com said they dont have it now, it has to be back order and take at least 3 weeks to get. Anyone know where else to order???
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Posted: 01/03/2007 at 11:49am |
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Get a regular Stiga Offensive Classic or WRB (hole in handle so more head heavy) and put a couple thin coats of varnish on the blade when you get it. That's all the "CR" finish is so you'll save some money as well. Galaxy also makes a clone of the Stiga Offensive CR if you go to Cole's site. -- Andrew |
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Posted: 01/04/2007 at 1:00am |
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hey dude get a DOTEC, the best feeling ever. so comfortable in your hand its not funny. ive just tried it for about 3 wks, the handle automatically curves, already making a grip for the fh.
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