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TESTED!

Don't have much of a review yet but got a chance to play with it (with a celluloid ball) and had fun.  I put this on clipper CR with H3 #50 35 degree on the backhand.  Great setup.  I didn't have to make any adjustments vs. H3, and so far the rubber behaves more or less the same for me.  Short game, service, and opening loops all clicked without any issues.  Will see as it breaks in, it feels like the topsheet has more pop and tension.
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The price went up to $71! That's just insane...
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Originally posted by Vardant Vardant wrote:

The price went up to $71! That's just insane...


Its insane that some vendors can charge so much for any version of Hurricane. All of their rubbers need boosting so they shouldn't be more than $40. I saw the $140 tag on National H3N on megaspine.net, and a $65 tag for Provincial... Crazy! I remember when Provincial H3N was only $35 and Commercial $22, and now they are just trying to rip off consumers...

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Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:


Its insane that some vendors can charge so much for any version of Hurricane. All of their rubbers need boosting so they shouldn't be more than $40. I saw the $140 tag on National H3N on megaspine.net, and a $65 tag for Provincial... Crazy! I remember when Provincial H3N was only $35 and Commercial $22, and now they are just trying to rip off consumers...

That's a personal preference as many people don't boost.  The ones who do are dudes with girly arms.  LOL

As far as the crazy pricing, it's supply and demand since National technically isn't supposed to be available for retail and as long as people are willing to pay it, the prices will continue to creep up.
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Originally posted by GMan4911 GMan4911 wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:


Its insane that some vendors can charge so much for any version of Hurricane. All of their rubbers need boosting so they shouldn't be more than $40. I saw the $140 tag on National H3N on megaspine.net, and a $65 tag for Provincial... Crazy! I remember when Provincial H3N was only $35 and Commercial $22, and now they are just trying to rip off consumers...

That's a personal preference as many people don't boost.  The ones who do are dudes with girly arms.  LOL

As far as the crazy pricing, it's supply and demand since National technically isn't supposed to be available for retail and as long as people are willing to pay it, the prices will continue to creep up.


Ofcourse. When I used it I never boosted... But if you think about it: Today's Hurricane prices + Booster prices + Decreasing rubber durability with boosting over a period of time probably exceeds the cost of buying Tenergy rubbers. That's why I said they are worth no more than $40.
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Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

"Designed for 40+ balls"! Wow, it must be faster and spinnier.


Does this really works better with the 40+ ball or is it just a marketing trick? 
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Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

"Designed for 40+ balls"! Wow, it must be faster and spinnier.



It might be, or it might be the most obvious marketing strategy you could use at this exact point in time.  I am I think by nature more skeptical than you, Haggis!   LOL
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After I played H8 side by side with H3 for a month, I definitely choose my H8 (still unboosted) over H3 when playing new plastic balls especially in games.

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I have a YEO, wonder H8 would fit?
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Didn't like it on the YEO, throw was too low and feel was mushy.
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I had a really fun 3 hour session with H8 (39 degree, black, 2.2mm) last night.  I don't have a lot to add to the reviews at this point - I think most of the details given here are bang on the money.  Here are some initial thoughts though.

  • This is definitely an evolution of the hurricane series in general.  It's no hybrid - it still has a very Chinese feel.  
  • The topsheet is tacky enough to lift a ball for a second - a similar level of tack to recent sheets of H3N Provincial.  Quality is great, no imperfections anywhere.
  • The topsheet feels slightly softer, or more gelatinous in some way, compared to H3N.
  • The sponge has no glue layer, but the rubber was sealed in an airtight package.  If it's factory tuned, it's via some undetectable method.  Can't smell or feel anything booster-like.
  • The sponge has a more rubbery and springy feel.  It's not porous (or not visibly so), but the material used is different to H3N for sure.  If I stretch the rubber off-cuts, the sponge feels very stretchy and elastic while remaining pliable.  The last rubber I saw with a sponge like this was Airoc, but that was a lot softer and far more porous.
  • It's heavy.
In play...well.  Did you ever use H3N and wish it was just a bit more alive in some way?  This is that rubber.  If you boost H3N you get a range of effects including a softer feel, a more elastic response, and MOAR speed.  H8 lacks the speed (I'd say it was pretty much the same speed as H3N overall, but different in where the speed makes itself known) of a boosted H3N, but it does bring a touch of flexibility.  People have mentioned that it's 10% more this and that, which is about right - it's nothing major, but it is useful IMO.

H8 seemed to help out in the areas which I've always struggled with H3.  The slight bounce helps me a lot with blocking and flicks.  The general increase in elasticity helps when in a loop-loop rally away from the table.  The arc is quite high on effort shots from distance, but it retains the ability to produce a powerful low loop drive with that awkward bounce you know H3N gives you.

I split my time roughly 50/50 between celluloid and seamless 40+ balls, and I think it plays well with both.  It lacks speed compared with eurojap but feels reassuringly solid which invites big swings - the classic Chinese approach, while being a bit less demanding of user strength and positioning.  On a reasonable OFF blade it's fast enough for me, and I don't need to boost it.  With the plastic ball you get a better sense of grab on impact than most rubbers I've used so far.

As things stand, I'd pick H8 over H3N for its ease of use while retaining good performance.  It doesn't sacrifice power for outright flexibility as H3-50 does.  And it's reasonably priced these days.  Well worth a go if any of the above makes sense to you.
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Any sellers in the US?
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Any sellers in the US?
Don't think so.
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A couple of club members have migrated from H3 to H8 on Boll ALC / Viscaria and have loved it.

Question: when you order this rubber, do you get to choose the sponge hardness?
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

A couple of club members have migrated from H3 to H8 on Boll ALC / Viscaria and have loved it.

Question: when you order this rubber, do you get to choose the sponge hardness?

Yes, I ordered from ttnpp as well and there is hardness selection.  Well, they only had 39 degree 2.2mm left in stock, but there were other options there from a happier, more simple time when stock existed and it was all fields around here.

TT11 is out of stock at the moment.  Not sure what their hardness policy is - there is some mention of labeling confusion in the rubber review section.

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AndySmith,

How do you compare H8 with Big Dipper? To me, BD still has the Chinese rubber on a tensor sponge feel like Thors. Does H8 is more a livelier H3 without boosted? Has anyone boosted a H8 and see how it hits?

Schen, have you tried the H8 on different blade? I wonder if this rubber needs a slightly flexible blade to pair with.

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My only trial with H8 was with a YEO and an MLC.  I personally did not like it very much, too low of a throw when paired with those blades.  H8 feels hard to the touch but soft and elastic in play, especially when boosted.  

I think it would play better on something like a clipper or stiffer 5-ply blades.
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H8's throw is higher with Hayabusa ZX, I find H8 & Big Dipper fairly similar whereas BD is more livelier (from being factory tuned). Both just slightly tacky & doesn't produce as much spin as H3 prov with number stamp. I believe different hardness in each rubber in sensitive to each blade. I've used NR-50 (Rosewood) with an untuned 39, & find it excellent in everything. Somehow I still believe that 38 tuned will play far better & easier than the latter. (more dwell, prob same top gears). Since the price of H8's is on par with BD, why not just try it for yourself?
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I am just trying to decide if I want to spend the money to try it since I am still happy with 729 battle 2 at the moment. Thx all the feedback..
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last night I had a brief hit with H8 39 and Nittaku H3 Pro, both on a Yinhe T1. Ball was Tibhar 40+.
Initially I was reluctant to try them on a blade so different than mine, but can I really kill the EJ in me? It was a hot evening and me and my partner were struggling to understand the behaviour of the new ball- mostly me , extremely unhappy with the lack of the usual load of spin in my shots. Then there came that guy and he proposed me to try the T1 with the above mentioned rubbers and to my surprise the ball came back to life. Spin was enormous, my partner missed 80% of my heavy topspins. The rubber felt surprisingly lively and softish{for a Chinese one} To me the arc wasn't as low as people are pointing, rather high, long and difficult to block. I mainly looped, drove and smashed with the H8 on my FH. Really nice. For me the Nittaku H3Pro next to the H8 was a big disappointment. Nothing special, less spin and speed. Control was on par with the H8. I am still to figure out if the blade{T1}was the one to provoke my enthusiasm or the rubber it self, or the combination.Now I am looking for a good place to buy it from. So far only Tabletebbis11 are selling it at reasonable price. There is something strange in TTNPP when trying to choose the options for rubber.
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H8 mid-hard or H8 hard.
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39. I guess this is suppose to be mid hard
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Originally posted by PingPongHolic10 PingPongHolic10 wrote:

H8's throw is higher with Hayabusa ZX, I find H8 & Big Dipper fairly similar whereas BD is more livelier (from being factory tuned). Both just slightly tacky & doesn't produce as much spin as H3 prov with number stamp. I believe different hardness in each rubber in sensitive to each blade. I've used NR-50 (Rosewood) with an untuned 39, & find it excellent in everything. Somehow I still believe that 38 tuned will play far better & easier than the latter. (more dwell, prob same top gears). Since the price of H8's is on par with BD, why not just try it for yourself?

In our country (USA) the prices are, approximately: BD $20, H8 $44.
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BD is absolutely unknown around here(Brussels).......
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Tried H8 mid-hard 2.2mm..its definitely a more lively rubber than H3...i would say its quite similar to G1 rubber but more tacky..less sticky than H3 H2...will be ordering more..
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Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

In our country (USA) the prices are, approximately: BD $20, H8 $44.


Even in China H8 cost 2 to 3 times more than BD so they are not in the same class. But BD does play better for me and factory tune seems to last forever.
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Hi guys. I've just got mine H8 2.15 mid hardness. I was wondering should I boosted with some Falco Long, or there isn't much of a difference? Anyone.....
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