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    Posted: 01/23/2024 at 2:13pm
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Accuser and two witnesses just lawyered up.
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Very wise move by the victim and her parents. More bad news for the defendant, this likely means they are prepared to pursue him in civil court as well.

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JediJesseS, Please, edit your post to edit names out.
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They are available now in the official court documentation. However, I will edit my previous post as you request.   
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Hope this thread doesn't devolve into the stupidity of the previous one where people presumed guilt or innocence based on their views of religion.
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Originally posted by JediJesseS JediJesseS wrote:

Very wise move by the victim and her parents. More bad news for the defendant, this likely means they are prepared to pursue him in civil court as well.
alleged victim. We do not choose a side. We can only hope for a final decision that reflects reality as close as possible.
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Originally posted by dingyibvs dingyibvs wrote:

Hope this thread doesn't devolve into the stupidity of the previous one where people presumed guilt or innocence based on their views of religion.

Stupidity or reality?  Ultimately no one knows, you make your judgment based on things other than evidence when you don't have it and ideally the evidence when you do.
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A somewhat confusing update. A continuance of the trial was granted, which could mean any number of things, and the bond was also returned.

Originally posted by dingyibvs dingyibvs wrote:

Hope this thread doesn't devolve into the stupidity of the previous one where people presumed guilt or innocence based on their views of religion.


I will try and make another post to consolidate my reasoning in one place since the last thread was lost. But to just say for now, it isn't stupidity to note a connection between intense sexual repression of the kind that Dubina's religion teaches and sexual crimes or obsessions. It's the same phenomenon where the loudest most aggressive detractors of homosexuality are often the same ones to be found the following evening in a hotel room with a young boy.

Repression and prohibition have a tendency to breed fascination and pleasure.
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Can someone who understands the court system shed some light on the following? The victim's parents are listed as her witnesses. This doesn't make any sense. Does this mean they saw the alleged incident firsthand?

edit (per ChatGPT): it's important to note that being listed as witnesses doesn't necessarily imply direct observation. Witnesses can provide information or testimony based on what they know, have been told, or observed indirectly. 


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