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    Posted: 01/23/2020 at 5:23pm
Ive been playing for Shakehand style for 25years but I would like to try a JPH just for fun& leisure.

 Which blade would you recommend it to me? I don't want anything expensive, just something fine and affordable that I could switch sometimes with my shakehand style. I will keep competing seriously with my regular grip style so I don't pretend to change my style, just only for practice or playing some friendly club matches. 

OTOH I've heard most of power drivers players use thick 1 ply hinoki blades such as Darker speed 90 and so on. Which plywood composition would you recommend it to me? Can you enlighten to me?


Edited by jonyer1980 - 01/23/2020 at 5:23pm
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Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing
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Butterfly JP I-S.  Cheap and powerful.  So good I bought 5 of them
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First, I think you should choose a Hinoki single ply blade. If you are going to play Jpen, even just for fun, you should have the maximum experience the style provides. And there´s no combination of woods better than single ply Hinoki for Jpen blades.
Another thing, with those new balls, old 9mm Hinoki blades (like Cypress-S or Senkoh-1) became mushy in my opinion. They worked well with 38mm ball and with a lot of fresh glue. Now a Jpen blade must be at least 10mm thickness. 
The problem is this type of blade is expensive as hell, but there are a few low grade 10mm Hinokis more affordable. I suggest Darker Speed 15 Kaku 10mm or Butterfly Cypress T Max.
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my jph modified and great feeling 





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Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

Butterfly JP I-S.  Cheap and powerful.  So good I bought 5 of them

At 260$ it's a bargain for sure!Tongue  I don't to spend that amount of money 
I dont need anything premium or expensive. I never thought JPH was believethat crazy expensive. BTW,  there's almost no  info about J-PH equipment.



Edited by jonyer1980 - 01/24/2020 at 2:12am
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didn't you say "Avoid any Butterfly stuff... "
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I've since upgraded to TSP Special Dynam 10.0, but the TSP SP-55 S I had was awesome for $65 if you can find one.
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T-Max is meant to pair well with anything and is easy to use. 
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

Butterfly JP I-S.  Cheap and powerful.  So good I bought 5 of them

At 260$ it's a bargain for sure!Tongue  I don't to spend that amount of money 
I dont need anything premium or expensive. I never thought JPH was believethat crazy expensive. BTW,  there's almost no  info about J-PH equipment.


I got mine for $150 a piece, brand new
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Get yourself a TSP Special Dynam 10.5 mm.

- Same blade dimensions as Butterfly. 
- Since they're produced regularly, there's a huge variety of weights you can choose from.
- Extraordinary wood quality. 
- Depending on your location, it will cost you around 200 - 230 USD.


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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

Ive been playing for Shakehand style for 25years but I would like to try a JPH just for fun& leisure.

 Which blade would you recommend it to me? I don't want anything expensive, just something fine and affordable that I could switch sometimes with my shakehand style. I will keep competing seriously with my regular grip style so I don't pretend to change my style, just only for practice or playing some friendly club matches. 

OTOH I've heard most of power drivers players use thick 1 ply hinoki blades such as Darker speed 90 and so on. Which plywood composition would you recommend it to me? Can you enlighten to me?
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that's a nice idea. I had such thoughts to try jpen just for fun some time ago too. But dropped it for unspecified reasons LOL

Let us know how it goes!
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One-ply for sure.  But for fun, pre-made is enough and having been around a while, you should be skilled enough to peel off pre-made rubber from a pre-made blade.

There is one player in my club that shows up about twice a year.  He was a former junior player in Korea and still about 2350 with no practice.  He uses a pre-made one-ply J-pen in my bag with Sriver no speed glue or tuner.  I glued Bryce and Tenergy for him to try but he says “too fast”.  
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I have a question for people who have acquired a 2nd hand J-pen blade.

Has the blades grip area ever been too sanded for your preferences? Obviously you can always sand down more if you wish but cannot undo what has been done.

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Yes, if you sand the handle's back side too much, your blade's center of gravity will be focused more towards the blade's face which might result in inconsistent shots. 

When you buy a new blade which has the cork part on the handle's back side attached (e.g. Butterfly, TSP), you can expect a reduced overall weight of around 3g after sanding/removing all necessary/unnecessary parts.

With respect on how much do you want your blade to be sanded: generally speaking, it's up to everyone's individual preference and comfort. Nevertheless, you want to make sure that your thumb and index finger lie effortlessly flat on the blade. 


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Definitely you will find it different when gripping a different degrees of sanding on the J-pen. I experienced it on my own blades, as the blades are somewhat has different degrees of sanding. All my blades are bought new, so I sanded each and every blade. I think if we stick to one blade of a certain degree of sanding for some time, we will get used to it.
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Yes, I can tell there would be some variations of degrees of the sanding done. Thank you both for your responses. 

Next question: What is the preferred thickness of the 1-ply nowadays: 9, 10, or 10.5 mm?
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