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    Posted: 02/06/2020 at 2:02pm
What are the coaching rates (per hour etc) of various levels of coaches in table tennis in various countries / clubs etc ?

How does this compare to rates in other racket sports like tennis, badminton, squash, racquetball etc. 

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there are some 2400+ coaches who charge $75/hr for a beginner class smh...  most expensive i've ever seen
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Originally posted by WangZiomin WangZiomin wrote:

What are the coaching rates (per hour etc) of various levels of coaches in table tennis in various countries / clubs
You can easily do your own research here! Go to club websites and they usually state how much they charge for coaching and some even have multiple coaches who charge differently based on level/rating and experience. I have done this numerous times when visiting other places on business. It does require you to do some work though.
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Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

there are some 2400+ coaches who charge $75/hr for a beginner class smh...  most expensive i've ever seen

I've seen anywhere from $40-$95.  It's not the cost of the lesson, it's the value of the lesson.


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TT hot spot:  $40 to $75 an hour.
TT cold spot:  $30 an hour.
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In my area it is about $65 per hour at the club.  If you want private coaching at your home, the rate goes up to $100.  One local coach has so many students he charges $130 per hour and getting a lesson is almost impossible as the coach is so booked up.  There are also a few cases of celebs/rich people paying more to various coaches but these cases are pretty rare. 
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Experior TTC  Chicago $20 for group lesson and $40 for private. 
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Originally posted by tabletenischicagocom tabletenischicagocom wrote:

Experior TTC  Chicago $20 for group lesson and $40 for private. 
Hi, I am currently retired from actively playing in clubs other that visiting every once in a while because the absence of serious group lessons. It is beyond my understanding that this is not more widely spread since so much money is left on the table: how many people like me do not play as much as they would because they can't get the product they want? especially adults wanting a structured environment to avoid the loons and time waste:

get in
group lesson around a given level
get out.

I am not moving to Chicago even though another 8 hours in a row at the Art Institute sounds cool: do you people still have the lady in red at a bar? I saw a poster in a restaurant once in the 80s and when I saw it in real for the 1st time in 1992 in my 1st vacation in the USA, I stumbled onto it by hazard as I was wandering through the galleries and the bright red exploded at my face, I felt so little.

ahem... back to business, I assume the $40 private lesson lasts an hour. How long for the $20 group lesson? how many people in it, how many coaches? As a customer, I'd feel comfortable with that price with 1 coach, 6 tables and 12 trainees for 1.5 to 2 hours: How far am I from what you do?

Thanks for your posts and videos, I always know I'll read or watch something interesting.



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fatt,

Our club here in Sacramento has weekly group lessons geared for the U1000 crowd, and for the O1000 crowd. That is a wide range of levels, but our sport has so many levels it is hard to get enough players in one club who are 1 level close to each other.

Our club's group lessons last TWO HOURS - it is 20 USD. Our head coach is very experienced at training warrior kids and does well with the developing adults too.

I do not take these, but infrequently assist. I am generally not at the club as early on the weekend at the time of these lessons. This isn't boot camp intense, but it is structured and more slanted for doing then receiving lectures. The head coach slants it toward enough action and discovery so that the players would be more likely to keep interest longer term.

Our club is not the typical USA club where a few hours of space at community center is rented or gifted for free. Usually, only a full time club could do that, but what the heck, even a part time club could do that one night a week if enough players want that.

Sadly, in USA, the great majority of players do not want structure, discipline, and failure that later results in increased playing level...

… most just want to play matches and play matches and play to try to win, not play to practice something that contributes to improvement down the road.
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Originally posted by tabletenischicagocom tabletenischicagocom wrote:

Experior TTC  Chicago $20 for group lesson and $40 for private. 


I watched one of these group lessons two years ago: it was very intense, lasted more than one hour, and the weakest was at least 1900. Too bad it is too far from Northshore or I would look for some private lessons (as I'm unable to keep up with this group).
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Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

fatt,

Our club here in Sacramento has weekly group lessons geared for the U1000 crowd, and for the O1000 crowd. That is a wide range of levels, but our sport has so many levels it is hard to get enough players in one club who are 1 level close to each other.

Our club's group lessons last TWO HOURS - it is 20 USD. Our head coach is very experienced at training warrior kids and does well with the developing adults too.

I do not take these, but infrequently assist. I am generally not at the club as early on the weekend at the time of these lessons. This isn't boot camp intense, but it is structured and more slanted for doing then receiving lectures. The head coach slants it toward enough action and discovery so that the players would be more likely to keep interest longer term.

Our club is not the typical USA club where a few hours of space at community center is rented or gifted for free. Usually, only a full time club could do that, but what the heck, even a part time club could do that one night a week if enough players want that.

Sadly, in USA, the great majority of players do not want structure, discipline, and failure that later results in increased playing level...

… most just want to play matches and play matches and play to try to win, not play to practice something that contributes to improvement down the road.

This is a very fine contribution!

Thank you.

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65$ per hour here in Los Angeles.
Paid 17$ per hour back in Belarus, with ex-national team player and former junior national team coach; 10$ per hour with regular experienced players (I guess somewhere ~2600 USATT)
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

I am not moving to Chicago even though another 8 hours in a row at the Art Institute sounds cool: do you people still have the lady in red at a bar? I saw a poster in a restaurant once in the 80s and when I saw it in real for the 1st time in 1992 in my 1st vacation in the USA, I stumbled onto it by hazard as I was wandering through the galleries and the bright red exploded at my face, I felt so little.

There is a bar called Redhead Piano Bar.  Not sure that's what you mean.



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Originally posted by banJunkRubbers banJunkRubbers wrote:

Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

I am not moving to Chicago even though another 8 hours in a row at the Art Institute sounds cool: do you people still have the lady in red at a bar? I saw a poster in a restaurant once in the 80s and when I saw it in real for the 1st time in 1992 in my 1st vacation in the USA, I stumbled onto it by hazard as I was wandering through the galleries and the bright red exploded at my face, I felt so little.




There is a bar called Redhead Piano Bar.  Not sure that's what you mean.




Yes, the painting was still at the Art Institute of Chicago in October.
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Wei Wang, former US National Team charges $80/h in Los Angeles/Santa Monica

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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:


I am not moving to Chicago even though another 8 hours in a row at the Art Institute sounds cool: do you people still have the lady in red at a bar? I saw a poster in a restaurant once in the 80s and when I saw it in real for the 1st time in 1992 in my 1st vacation in the USA, I stumbled onto it by hazard as I was wandering through the galleries and the bright red exploded at my face, I felt so little.

I believe that painting is called "Nighthawks".  Very evocative. Art often makes one feel small.  I remember first seeing a Jackson Pollock at the Tate Modern in London. Demanded attention. 

BTW, I pay £20 an hour for coaching from a UK level 3 coach.
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