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I am planning on hosting some small group play at my home...I have done this many times for my club.
In Ky our rule right now is no groups of more than 10.  I will invite 4-8 players.
these are the precautions I plan on taking. What do you think?  There is wisdom in the multitude of counselors.

1. I will ask all players to wash their hands well in my Kutchen sink before coming to the large garage for play

2. I will supply surgical grade gloves to wear on the ball tossing hand at least. Since no paddle sharing I think this is enough.  If players want one for both hands that will be fine.

3. Bring your own water

4. At the end of play I will show the correct way to remove gloves and ask everyone to wash again before they leave.

5. We will use new balls...before next session...if there is one I will wash all the balls in the approved clorox solution.

I am used to playing 3x a week...I want to be safe without being fearful.  Wink
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Originally posted by JoeB JoeB wrote:

I am planning on hosting some small group play at my home...I have done this many times for my club.
In Ky our rule right now is no groups of more than 10.  I will invite 4-8 players.
these are the precautions I plan on taking. What do you think?  There is wisdom in the multitude of counselors.

1. I will ask all players to wash their hands well in my Kutchen sink before coming to the large garage for play

2. I will supply surgical grade gloves to wear on the ball tossing hand at least. Since no paddle sharing I think this is enough.  If players want one for both hands that will be fine.

3. Bring your own water

4. At the end of play I will show the correct way to remove gloves and ask everyone to wash again before they leave.

5. We will use new balls...before next session...if there is one I will wash all the balls in the approved clorox solution.

I am used to playing 3x a week...I want to be safe without being fearful.  Wink

Will you supply face masks ?

3.  You will the supply the beer . That is very good.

5. Washing balls ? That sounds fishy . What if it modifies ball properties (seriously) & enhances one playing style (looping, lobbing, blocking, chopping, hitting) to disadvantage of another 
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lmao.... you can survive without playing for a few weeks :D
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I can see it now, speakeasy underground table tennis dens, where you have to know the password to get in.
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Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

I can see it now, speakeasy underground table tennis dens, where you have to know the password to get in.

Funny, yet sad, and somehow... still funny!
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Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

I can see it now, speakeasy underground table tennis dens, where you have to know the password to get in.



psst.  Berndt Mann.

OK, you can come in.
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Originally posted by JoeB JoeB wrote:

I am planning on hosting some small group play at my home...I have done this many times for my club.
In Ky our rule right now is no groups of more than 10.  I will invite 4-8 players.
these are the precautions I plan on taking. What do you think?  There is wisdom in the multitude of counselors.

1. I will ask all players to wash their hands well in my Kutchen sink before coming to the large garage for play

2. I will supply surgical grade gloves to wear on the ball tossing hand at least. Since no paddle sharing I think this is enough.  If players want one for both hands that will be fine.

3. Bring your own water

4. At the end of play I will show the correct way to remove gloves and ask everyone to wash again before they leave.

5. We will use new balls...before next session...if there is one I will wash all the balls in the approved clorox solution.

I am used to playing 3x a week...I want to be safe without being fearful.  Wink


The thing you can't control for is if the SARS-CoV-2 virus spreads in an aerosol form, then what you do with people's hands and with the ball won't stop it from spreading in a relatively small confined space, especially if you are just a few feet away from the opponent.  You could still spread the virus if one of the players is infected and doesn't know it.  And there is pretty good evidence that coronaviruses in general can spread that way.  Along these lines, it is possible (but impossible to prove) that one of the Detroit Pistons players got the virus from one of the Utah Jazz players during a game.

Personally, I would very politely thank someone who extended me such a thoughtful invitation but I would decline. 


Edited by Baal - 03/17/2020 at 8:06pm
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I posted a serious question.  Most of the responses are silly to non-sense.
Passwords? Underground?  Nothing of the question or situation relates to this.   If it was supposed to be humor, OK.       But then we are comparing TT to NBA games for safety???   Really?
Playing a few feet apart??   Who does that except doubles...which nothing was said about.   The table is 9ft long, and no one stands with their tummy stuck to the table so most  of the time we are 11 to 15 ft
away from each other.   Coughs and such to spread drops of contaminated mosture: would you really keep playing with folks who have those symptoms? Would you allow them to play?  No way!
 Looking for some real thought on the subject.  I totally understand if you want to sit it out for a time.
Some play, in small groups, with common sense precautions, seems very reasonable to me.

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Ok, on a more serious note, I presume you have one table? Then why 4-8? That is 2-6 people sitting around if you aren't playing doubles. Invite one, maybe two.

There is a lot we don't know about the spread. Many people have it but have no symptoms. Do they touch their face? What other surface in your house do they touch? Smaller groups are just safer.
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I wouldn't play, but if you are going to host, you should also consider the following:

Players never switch table sides if playing a match.

No touching the table, especially acting like a pro and wiping your hand near the net in between every point.

Any time a player leaves the table, have them wipe down the table with alcohol. I often clean the tables where I play, there's always sweat stains on the table even after one session.

Players can throw sweat at each other while swinging. Some people sweat more than others. One guy at the club changes shirts every 20 minutes because he sweats so much. Don't invite heavy sweaters.

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There is no evidence that the virus is transmitted through sweat so you don’t have to worry about the “heavy sweaters”.
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Do you play with the garage door open? I hope ventilation is sufficient.
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Originally posted by Matt Pimple Matt Pimple wrote:

There is no evidence that the virus is transmitted through sweat so you don’t have to worry about the “heavy sweaters”.


"Dr Tomar reassures us that "sweat itself doesn’t transmit coronavirus" - so you don't have to worry about missing the odd drip of sweat on the cross trainer when you wipe it down after your workout. Phew.

Having said that, the expert does clarify that "anyone with the virus who coughs, sneezes or wipes their nose on their sweaty hand or arm can pass the virus from their mucus into their sweat and spread it that way."

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/health/a31257709/coronavirus-gym-hygiene/

Even if people wash their hands before, they tend to subconsciously touch their hands to face many times.
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You can sort out some prizes for top 3 players such as paracetamol, toilet roll, hand sanitizer etc...just to make things more competitive and interesting
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Originally posted by JoeB JoeB wrote:

I posted a serious question.  Most of the responses are silly to non-sense.
Passwords? Underground?  Nothing of the question or situation relates to this.   If it was supposed to be humor, OK.       But then we are comparing TT to NBA games for safety???   Really?
Playing a few feet apart??   Who does that except doubles...which nothing was said about.   The table is 9ft long, and no one stands with their tummy stuck to the table so most  of the time we are 11 to 15 ft
away from each other.   Coughs and such to spread drops of contaminated mosture: would you really keep playing with folks who have those symptoms? Would you allow them to play?  No way!
 Looking for some real thought on the subject.  I totally understand if you want to sit it out for a time.
Some play, in small groups, with common sense precautions, seems very reasonable to me.


You asked for advice.  I teach at a medical school.   I gave some serious advice based on what little is known.  Hands are only part of the story. People who are asymptomatic can be infected and can shed the virus.  Into the air.  We dont know for sure how far they travel.    You didn't like my advice, then dont follow it.  But dont complain about it.

Edit added.  The best available data today suggest that about 12% of cases in China were spread by people not yet showing symptoms.


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