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    Posted: 08/18/2019 at 9:18pm
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No Chinese top players.

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Thanks skip. Was thinking to do it tonight.Handshake
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

No Chinese top players in either men or women.


They're now ALL in California, training and fraternizing with the Americans:
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Qualifications will be long...4 rounds for the men: 230 players registered in total and 180 ladies....
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Kanak Jha is in the Preliminary Round, his position is #33.
Hope he wins and gets to the Main Draw.


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Kanak Jha is in the Preliminary Round, his position is #33.
Hope he wins and gets to the Main Draw.

Maybe, just maybe, we will get Kanak vs Pletea.  I would like to see that, although it is on table 9.
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The winner between positions 33 and 48, will advance to the Main Draw.
Is there a player strong enough to give Kanak a run for the money?
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

No Chinese top players in either men or women.


They're now ALL in California, training and fraternizing with the Americans:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/usatabletennis/48562974962/in/album-72157710380004101/
Very cool!  Looks like FZD (1st picture) and ZYL (2nd picture) may be suffering a bit of jet lag LOLLOLLOL
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Well? Boring final, Xintong-HE?
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Originally posted by VladCeller VladCeller wrote:

Well? Boring final, Xintong-HE?
Both Mima Ito and Kasumi Ishikawa are capable of making the finals.  Mima Ito had a close match .. 7 games .. with CXT in Bulgaria.  Kasumi needs to (and is fully capable of) playing better than what she showed in Bulgaria.  
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Theoretically, seven more Chinese women can enter the main draw ... If Ito and Hayata are still able to fight these seven Chinese women, then for Ishikawa there is no certainty for some reason .....
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For Czech open, the published match time minus 6 hours will be US Eastern time.
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Who does these table choices?

Table.1: Lebesson vs Chiang Chung Hieh
Table.16: Marco's Freitas vs Wei Shihao
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How could Lebesson's serves be not illegal? He hardly tossed the ball.
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Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Kanak Jha is in the Preliminary Round, his position is #33.
Hope he wins and gets to the Main Draw.
Maybe, just maybe, we will get Kanak vs Pletea.  I would like to see that, although it is on table 9.
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Kanak Jha lost his very first match in the Preliminary Round to Pletea.
WR #33 lost to WR #115, that's one heck of an upset.


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Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Kanak Jha is in the Preliminary Round, his position is #33.
Hope he wins and gets to the Main Draw.

Maybe, just maybe, we will get Kanak vs Pletea.  I would like to see that, although it is on table 9.
Ouch!  Kanak lost deuce in the 7th Cry:

    JHA Kanak       USA 7   9   11  11  11  6   10  3
WIN PLETEA Cristian ROU 11  11  5   9   7   11  12  4


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Kanak Jha is in the Preliminary Round, his position is #33.
Hope he wins and gets to the Main Draw.
Maybe, just maybe, we will get Kanak vs Pletea.  I would like to see that, although it is on table 9.
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Kanak Jha lost his very first match in the Preliminary Round to Pletea.
WR #33 lost to WR #115, that's one heck of an upset.
Not a huge upset.  Pletea is a very good young player.  He beat Kanak in a best of 5 at the 2018 Youth Olympic Games.  I wouldn't read too much into the ratings difference.  Back in June, Wang Chuqin was rated WR#107.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Kanak Jha is in the Preliminary Round, his position is #33.
Hope he wins and gets to the Main Draw.
Maybe, just maybe, we will get Kanak vs Pletea.  I would like to see that, although it is on table 9.
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Kanak Jha lost his very first match in the Preliminary Round to Pletea.
WR #33 lost to WR #115, that's one heck of an upset.
Not a huge upset.  Pletea is a very good young player.  He beat Kanak in a best of 5 at the 2018 Youth Olympic Games.  I wouldn't read too much into the ratings difference.  Back in June, Wang Chuqin was rated WR#107.
Agree, not a big upset. Pletea's ranking hasn't caught up to his level yet, and Jha's ranking is inflated as everyone knows. Too bad Ratings Central doesn't do a complete set of pro ratings.
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It is not just a Pletea ranking thing.  I have stressed that Kanak gets a rating boost for continental events that is not available to European players of his level.  Kanak gets points for placing second in the Panamerican Cup that would be similar to coming second in the European Cup or the Asian Cup.  For the record, I think Samsonov came second in the European Cup this year and Ma Long came second in the Asian Cup.  There are also some World Cup points they get just by playing.

Pletea is underrated but will have a much tougher path to displaying the same ranking level as Kanak if we assume they are both on the same level.

Players like Quadri Aruna and Heming Hu get a similar boost though Quadri will drop a bit because he came 3rd this year in the African Cup will also not get World Cup points.

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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

How could Lebesson's serves be not illegal? He hardly tossed the ball.

He tosses the ball but moves his hand around.  Remember that a toss just has to be net height. 
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Congratulations to Margaryta Pesotska and Britt Eerland for being the two European women to make it out of the qualifiers to avoid a clean sweep by their Asian competitors.
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R-32 Ito - Hayata ....Unhappy
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Originally posted by VladCeller VladCeller wrote:

R-32 Ito - Hayata ....Unhappy
Yes, Ouch.  On the women's main draw, 6 out of the 16 pairs have same nation opening matches.

Anton Kallberg had a nice run in the preliminaries to get into the main draw.  He beat Rajko Gommers of the Netherlands, Ricardo Walter of Germany, and Xiang Peng of China.
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

How could Lebesson's serves be not illegal? He hardly tossed the ball.
didn't analyse the height - I think the fact he moves his freehand around before tossing the ball is illegal
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

How could Lebesson's serves be not illegal? He hardly tossed the ball.
didn't analyse the height - I think the fact he moves his freehand around before tossing the ball is illegal

As long as he doesn't reach an Olympic final he'll probably be ok.
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there is something wrong with umpire on match JIN Takuya - XIANG Peng. Umpire raise arm on serve, players keep playing and umpire score the point, doesn't force them to replay.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by VladCeller VladCeller wrote:

R-32 Ito - Hayata ....Unhappy
Yes, Ouch.  On the women's main draw, 6 out of the 16 pairs have same nation opening matches.

Anton Kallberg had a nice run in the preliminaries to get into the main draw.  He beat Rajko Gommers of the Netherlands, Ricardo Walter of Germany, and Xiang Peng of China.

Even on the mens' side there's a ton of same nation opening matches . It's a bit ridiculous and looks a bit unfair. For example, I'm pretty sure both Wu Yang and Chen Xingtong (who need to play eachother), and Mima Ito and Hina Hayata are miles ahead in level compared to both Hana Matelova and Kim Hayeong (who are also 1st round opponents). 


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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

How could Lebesson's serves be not illegal? He hardly tossed the ball.
didn't analyse the height - I think the fact he moves his freehand around before tossing the ball is illegal

As long as he doesn't reach an Olympic final he'll probably be ok.

He won the European Championship with these serves lol....
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