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A personal invitation from Robert Blackwell - Event Date: 12/27/2009 |
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alexli
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Posted: 12/14/2009 at 11:10am |
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Dear Friend,
Please accept this message as a personal invitation to watch many of the World's best Table Tennis Athletes at this year's Killerspin SPINvitational Table Tennis Championships December 27th at Navy Pier's Grand Ballroom in Chicago, IL. For more information and to register please go to http://killerspin.eventbrite.com/. There is no charge but please register if you plan on attending. Best Regards and Happy Holiday Robert Blackwell Jr. President Electronic Knowledge Interchange 33 W. Monroe #1700 Chicago, IL 60603 312-236-2002 312-236-2022 Fax |
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Carbon TT
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It's a shame their doing some sort of stupid format for the professonal players. I heard it's going to be some kind of tag team event, 1 game to 41 points, and every 10 points is a quarter. Supposedly it was created by RB's propagan...I mean PR team. Congratulations RB, you have yet missed the mark once again. Please stop trying to make table tennis a hit in the US by making it something it is not, you have done enough damage as it is.
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Erikson45
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lol I'll be helping out there so hopefully I'll get to watch some of the matches :D
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stiltt
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I wonder why an American citizen like Fan Yiyong who has been #1 in the US for most of the last 12 years is not participating in this event while Lupulesku does.
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naijachief
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I'm interested in knowing what kind of damage Killerspin has done to U.S. table tennis. I was under the impression they were doing a better job at promoting the sport than the USATT. Maybe I'm wrong. Correct me if you may.
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Low Tek
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As opposed to all of the other organizations who are trying to promote Table Tennis in the US? If you don't like it, don't go. |
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JimT
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Is it really going to be a tag-team kinda thing? televised?
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takaaki
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same here!! i'll go so far as to say that he's been the ONLY person up till now that has been promoting the sport here in the US, despite usatt's interference!! and now, in addition to him, we have susan sarandon. hopefully, she can perhaps fix the place up so that the playing conditions are pro-level and then have something like a SPINVITATIONAL thingy over there that can also get televised. maybe RB should fly over to NYC and get together with her and try to set something up. TT in the USA can only benefit from that. |
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LOOPMEISTER
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I'll probably be going to watch the pros regardless, although I'd rather see them play regular matches versus some type of strange format.
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spitfire
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well, since they sell tt equipment, it would be wise (businessly) to promote tt in any way necessary for people to buy their stuff, i don't think KS really cares about producing top players though.
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NickW
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You're joking, right? I've seen Killerspin sponsored players locally in Chicago and from South America. They are the real deal- they sponsor players because those players exhibit visibility and/or potential. Locally in Chicago, table tennis would be NOWHERE without Killerspin. Clubs are fragmented, there is no league system- team or individual,and there are no organized training development group camps for juniors. Killerspin is doing their best to correct some of the problems by spending money to give the best bang for the buck they think necessary, but they can't do it alone. When have you seen anyone else doing what they are doing in the US, brands/distributors who many blindly support, including me? Paddle Palace? Tibhar? Stiga? ButterflyNA? Zeropong? Without Killerspin we wouldn't have this annual celebration at the end of the year with top names from Europe and Asia agreeing to come to showcase their talent in the US. I couldn't care less whether or not it is supposed to be an exhibition, at least the often forgotten Midwest enthusiasts can get to see top quality play up close and live. Until USATT figures out the US Open needs to be a ITTF ProTour event FOR the US enthusiasts/members this is the best we have. |
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liang1983
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2009 Killerspin Spinvitational Promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shMEOsXt-_w
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icontek
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What? Damage? Are you daft? How can you fault him for trying to raise exposure and spectator interest? You don't want to see the sport grow? I fail understand the grounds for your criticism of someone who has invested so much time and money in the sport (increasing exposure, helping his players and brand get featured on ESPN, sponsoring top US players, supporting clubs and leagues and providing great, personal customer service for his products). He's also partly responsible for the success of Bud Light's Hard Bat Classic (remember those Killerspin Blades). Whether you love or hate hardbat, it would be tough to call the event a failure. It certainly generated more hype, exposure and spectator interest than many other traditional US TT tournaments. You have my support Mr. Blackwell, keep up the good work! |
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takaaki
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same here, but, remember, most of the people in the audience are noobs (as probably the people who came up with this format), so you gotta reach them where they're at. also remember that RB, up until now, as done it "the regular way" and he no doubt knows what the viewership of his tv programs were, so maybe he's just trying something different to see if that'll increase viewership. at least he's doing something and something is always better than nothing at all. |
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LOOPMEISTER
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Anyway, I'm not seeing this "stupid format" anywhere. I see the handicap event to 41 points, and I see the 2 person team event on Saturday, but those are for regular players.... The Killerspin Holiday Open. I don't see any details about the Killerspin Spinvitational that entail the Pros playing 41 point, tag-team games with quarters... |
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Rich215
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+1 Good post! The USATT is a seems to be a failure at promoting the sport here in the USA. |
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spitfire
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SInce many people who attend the game are so called "noobs", I am afraid that they will perceive the TT exactly the way they see it, and I do believe having a formal and intensive match is more helpeful than a unorthodox exibition. In a country where TT is seen as a "basement game" we need professional matches to teach people that this is acturally a sport, not some people messing around. US need pro tour level matchs, not hiring pros to fool around. |
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liang1983
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takaaki
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i didn't see anything about that either. i just assumed the guy above had some "inside information."
maybe he just made it up just to take a cheap shot at RB... or maybe he's confusing the events for the noobs with the main event... |
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LOOPMEISTER
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I think he's confusing the different events. (That's what I call spreading propaganda.) |
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silverhair
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The USATT is not interested in participating in an event that could lead to an undermining of their good 'ol boys political network. It would rob them of the fragile hold on power over table tennis in the US. |
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takaaki
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i would totally agree with you as far as the last "administration" was concerned, but, as for the new one, we gotta give them a little time to get going.
for example, they are gonna stream the US NATIONALS over the internet starting tomorrow, i believe. now, that's a step in the right direction! |
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silverhair
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The same "gang" is still heavily involved. The USATT will never move forward as long as they have much to say.
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APW46
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Well I for one, agree with every word you say, why do Americans have to 'razzmataz' everything and change it. You are like a bunch of kids who need constant exitement, no doubt there will be cheerleaders, fireworks, Queens 'we will rock you' Hotdogs, popcorn...... who needs Table tennis, it could be anything, chess, tiddlywinks, hide and seek........
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Rich215
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Blame it all on ADD from video games and text messaging. Ya...I'm all for promoting TT .....but to promote it like it is not played in normal tournaments can be good and bad. I guess it depends on if you are trying to get Bar-Pong or Circus-Pong promoted. Arguments will go both ways....... But I agree with the fact that you can promote TT without all the BS and side show stuff. |
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APW46
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Well my take is, if you show it seriously, it will be taken seriously, something that TT seems to suffer from in the USA, where its almost seen as a joke sport.
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Speedplay
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Quoted do to agreeing with it. Did intend to post the exact same thing my self, but APW beat me to it. How ever, I do not know if Killerspin have done any damages to the sport in the past, or if this game to 41 tag team event will be played by the pro's, but when trying to promote a sport, I think the sport should be promoted as it is, not by changing it for the promotion. |
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icontek
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Any sport that you can't make a living playing is regarded as a joke in the US. Where have all the great heavyweight boxers of the past gone? They play in the NFL. Till the 1970's (the last era of great heavyweights) NFL players made 20,000-60,000 a year. Now the same "Football" players make 10 times that, and there are no more great heavyweights (they followed the money). Athletes will follow the money. You want TT to be taken seriously (like the World Series of Poker, or Golf) then you need to have earners. But big earners are only made from spectators and advertising dollars. Chicken, meet egg. ... AFAIK it's only in America that people pay money to watch other people turn left 2000 times in a single day... |
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NickW
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Why you ask? We are that way because we're not English nor are we part of the United Kingdom. We are that way precisely because we're American, and that's the way we do things. It's called "cultural difference" and we don't expect you to understand that, just as we don't understand the obsession with steak and kidney pie, haggis, blood pudding, cricket, and strawberries, cream and champagne at Wimbledon. |
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NickW
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Yes, and no. That statement should be amended to being "... in the world." There are regionalized sports around the world where the best make money. In the US, NFL players make money. If Peyton Manning lived in China he would be playing the equivalent of table tennis in the USA- no money in American Football in China. There are very few sports that are worldwide moneymakers. F1, tennis, football (soccer), basketball (to a certain extent), athletics (track/field), off the top of my head. Table tennis is obviously a money maker sport in Europe and Asia, and NOT in North America. That however, doesn't make it less popular, but popularity does not go hand in hand with money making or respect. The Killerspin Spinvitational is the equivalent to the NFL playing a preseason game in the UK or Japan- creating a beach head of exposure to hopefully develop future popularity. And as such, I think it's a good thing. |
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