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    Posted: 04/23/2011 at 3:05am

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I'm entirely convinced a player 500 points above me in rating will beat me regardless of which brand of equipment he's using (assuming it's similar - long pips or double inverted or w/e)

Butterfly equipment is the best, but I'd say TT skill is 99% training 1% equipment.
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Blades yes,  especially the all wood ones like Primorac -OFF and Korbel since they aren't all that more expensive than other brands and very good value for the quality of blade you get. The $200 ones not so much
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I am just asking if bty blades are worth your money I am not asking for a good bty blade.
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Not all of them are worth your money so? but some are :)
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No.
Not for a CPen player.
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Only if you are in love with your blade like me!!!! but it could get expensive to find that blade if you are trying different butterfly blades....
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havent used many of them but for the ones that ive tried yes its worth it
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rich215 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/23/2011 at 9:17am
your question is way too vague.   It's open to the large amount of different blades Bty makes, and also how much money a person has....and how much they value that money. 


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Korbel, Primorac and Grubba are worth every penny.

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Yes. Butterfly in my opinion has the best blades.
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Originally posted by GeneralSpecific GeneralSpecific wrote:

Yes. Butterfly in my opinion has the best blades.
 
+1, I think a lot of them are, although a few of them are over priced for what you get.
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in my opinion, generally... yes, butterfly is worth your penny. but if we're talking a specific blade, either composite/all wood, shakehand/cpen/jpen, flared/straight... i think we'll have different opinions about it
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Originally posted by shaolinTT shaolinTT wrote:

No.
Not for a CPen player.


Yoshida Kaii would disagree with you.
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Originally posted by Carbon TT Carbon TT wrote:

Originally posted by GeneralSpecific GeneralSpecific wrote:

Yes. Butterfly in my opinion has the best blades.
 
+1, I think a lot of them are, although a few of them are over priced for what you get.
only 7%  worth the money, the rest is garbage
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Carbon TT Carbon TT wrote:

Originally posted by GeneralSpecific GeneralSpecific wrote:

Yes. Butterfly in my opinion has the best blades.
 
+1, I think a lot of them are, although a few of them are over priced for what you get.
only 7%  worth the money, the rest is garbage

What blades are in your 7%?
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a blade is worth if it works for you.
 
what about a blade around 150$ expensive?.
 
first it must work for you to be worth. Is it worth a Maze or TB ALC over a 70$ around composite blade?.
 
if it works for you yes, because  it can last a lot of years. and besides, the other composite blades do not work exactly the same.
 
a tb zlc does not work for me so it is not worth. i prefer an extra sc.
 


Edited by ejmaster - 04/23/2011 at 5:03pm
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Some are worth, some are not. Lately, due to outrageous price raise, a lot went to the wrong part of the list...
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 TSP, Nittaku and Kokutaku have better blades at a lower price. But then again some Butterfly blades are unique. Take, for instance, Nitchugo Super which has been around since the 1970s. Of course, all those Timo Boll XYZ models are aimed at beginners who pursue the elusive do-it-all-by-itself blade, and therefore have little or no significance to the game.

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Originally posted by jcdi jcdi wrote:

Some are worth, some are not. Lately, due to outrageous price raise, a lot went to the wrong part of the list...

Agreed and I'd say most of them are.

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Originally posted by roar roar wrote:

Originally posted by shaolinTT shaolinTT wrote:

No.
Not for a CPen player.


Yoshida Kaii would disagree with you.
YK is definitely a great CPen blade.  Great quality and reasonably priced.
What I am trying to say is that BTY is not "CPen friendly".  A lot of their CPen blades are merely a short handle version of their SH blades.  Cutting down the handle of a great (maybe expensive) blade does not make a great CPen blade.  The result is a mediocre CPen blade regardless of price.  I would like to see BTY designs better CPen blades.
Stiga and Yasaka are more CPen friendly.
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If the blade 'fits' your playing style, you really can't put a price on that.

But my overall experience is a definite YES !!

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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

Korbel, Primorac and Grubba are worth every penny.


+10 :) these are the only good deals in the Butterfly line up, you can't go wrong with any of them
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moved to equipment forum...
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I use a Primorac 2000 an, but find it to have a 'dead' feel on hitting. Would not recommend it to anyone - not worth it. I am now very wary of Butterfly.
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Originally posted by ninglei23 ninglei23 wrote:


only a few of them... 
 
For me:
 
Timo Boll ALC, Timo Boll Spirit, Korbel, Joo Se Hyuk, Timo Boll ZLF, Kim Taek Soo, Cypress S.
 
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icontek I am sorry I tought it is not about equipment
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can I ask why you are not recommending iolite?(because no one is saying iolite in this thread)
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All blades are worth the money.

People around here seem to think that everyone should be able to afford every blade *cough*socialists*cough* and that anything that's not "reasonably priced" is a ridiculous piece of junk. That's like saying we should all be able to afford the best cars or the best wines or the best homes. Ridiculous. If you can't afford to buy the blade then don't buy it, go play with another one. But coming onto the forum and childishly complaining about the equipment because the price point doesn't match up with your station in life... it accomplishes nothing of value to your fellow forum members.
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Originally posted by BMonkey BMonkey wrote:

All blades are worth the money.

People around here seem to think that everyone should be able to afford every blade *cough*socialists*cough* and that anything that's not "reasonably priced" is a ridiculous piece of junk. That's like saying we should all be able to afford the best cars or the best wines or the best homes. Ridiculous. If you can't afford to buy the blade then don't buy it, go play with another one. But coming onto the forum and childishly complaining about the equipment because the price point doesn't match up with your station in life... it accomplishes nothing of value to your fellow forum members.


I think anyone who's reasonable would agree on a normative statement which somewhat counters your view:  If there is one blade which is statistically superior to all others, thus granting a person who is wielding it a demonstrably better chance of beating their opponent, then all players should have equal access to it.

Now as it happens there's no empirical data on any particular blade being that much better - and the highest priced ones are actually not used by professionals which may actually be considered a counter to that in itself.

Your argument against socialism is specious though.  Every single Western country in the world is a hybrid of capitalism and socialism.  And the vast majority of people living in each of those countries supports and enjoys those aspects of socialism which suit their lives.  Police departments, militaries, fire departments, public schools, post offices, public libraries, social security, medicare, medicaid, national parks - I could go on but I assume my point is made - are all socialist programs.  A country without any of those in case you're interested in seeing what it looks like and wish to move there would be Somalia.
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