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Keopele19
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Posted: 01/21/2009 at 2:19am |
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Inspired by a recent post, I thought I would ask you gurus a question:
I currently use butterfly's petr korbel blade with inspirit quattro ultralight on both sides. I do not speedglue and don't plan on starting. My game is centered around my serve, the first attack (typically 3rd ball), and holding the offensive via two-winged loops. I am confident with my loop, especially against any service or service return off the end of the table. My counterattacks and especially smashes could use improvements. I am seeking a possible equipment change to develop a more powerful attacking game without compromising TOO much control. Now obviously I have to compromise some control for power, but the last thing I need is a setup that lowers my attacking consistency and destroys my short game feel. I was thinking of trying a carbon/arylate blade with soft rubbers for control. Does anybody have any recommendations for me? |
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blade: Petr Korbel
fh: Inspirit Quattro Ultralight 40deg 2.2mm bh: Inspirit Quattro 40deg 2.0mm |
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bull_harrier
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Well i have only tried a few AC blades but if you want a good balance of control and speed I'd go with the Maze. The Timo Boll Spirit is a fast looping blade but the balance between speed and control isn't the same as the Maze in my opinion. If you want a cheaper blade there are some Galaxy blades that are practically clones of the butterfly blades that i just described and there are many members here who use and like them
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Yuli Berk
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Try Butterfly Michael Maze with Yasaka Mark V XS.
I'm currently using it and I'm very satisfied. you can't go wrong with this combo. I have a playing style near yours. |
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doraemon
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Sorry, do you mean that for its speed, Maze has better control, compared to that of TBS of the same speed? I remember reading that Maze is suitable for continuous attack while TBS (being softer) is better for varying spin type of offensive play. Can you confirm this? Thanks. |
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MildSeven
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A/c blades from slow to fast: Cofferlait, KLH Sp, TBS, Maze, Viscaria, Iolite
I don't know where Viscaria Light or your Korbel fits into this. Boll ALC is probably somewhere between TBS and Maze. For your situation I would consider Boll ALC, Maze, Viscaria, and the arylate-only Keyshot Light. |
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Totoro
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You can also try Galaxy's K series... Most of them are arylate/carbon [ they say kevlar but it's the same as arylate ]. The K-2 is a KLH clone and I think the K-5 is the Timo Boll Spirit Clone and K-6 I think is the Maze clone...not sure bout the K-6.
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Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
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riVers <3
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I would just stick with the Butterfly Petr Korbel, I currently play with the Timo Boll Spirit blade and think that the Korbel and the Spirit is pretty similar as far as speed is concerned. Try some new faster rubbers if you want more speed.
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FH:Sriver G2 2.1 (red) BH:Sriver G2 2.1 (black) Blade:Timo Boll Spirit (ST) FH:Tenergy 05 2.1 (red) BH:Tenergy 05 2.1 (black) |
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mizutani_jun
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i just like you.
i love my korbel very much.
but if you want more power,go with m.maze.
it got everything you need.
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bull_harrier
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From my experience i found the TBS to have a little more speed but i agree with you that with the soft feel you can spin the ball well and vary the spins if you know how to use the potential of this blade. For me two things set the Maze on a higher pedestal, the larger square handle and the low throw angle. You can unload some spinny shots with the Maze but that blade is a little better for driving and power looping. I don't think that these two blades are the same speed though, I think and again this is from my experience, that the TBS is a faster blade |
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AndySmith
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I agree with this. I have both TBS and Maze, and I find that the TBS is slightly faster - although my TBS is the older metal badge one, and my Maze the newer silver label one (if that makes any difference).
Both are great blades!
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mwyatt
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You have the perfect setup there. Your power will increase the more you practice. Switching your entire setup would mean backtracking for months. In that wasted time you could be improving and strengthening your knowledge of the current setup. Change will do more harm than good in my opinion! |
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Peter C
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I advise you to stick with the Petr Korbel.
It's a versatile blade that is a great looper, with good technique and it's stiff enough to be good for blocking, loop driving, hitting and smashing. It also has a good feel to it, which helps touch in the short game too. The first time I played with my Petr Korbel, I used it with Max Sriver EL and was surprised how well I played with that set up. In particular, I found myself playing with more confidence, consistentcy and accuracy, after 30 minutes; than with Max Sriver EL on the TBS and Michael Maze. Quite simply I had better control with the Petr Korbel. The Michael Maze and TBS are very good blades and a lot of good players use them. They are designed for professionals and require good technique to get the best out of them, but they don't suit everyone and as a 5 ply wood blade player, you would need time to adjust your game to take advantage of the benefits they offer. It took me 3 months to adjust playing with a Timo Boll Spirit. In particular, getting used to the way the blade played in the short game because the lower level of feedback, you get compared to a wooden blade. It initially adversely affected my short game and I found it harder judging short returns on serve and pushes. I got used to it and can play reasonably well with arylate carbons in the short game, but my short game is still better with 5 ply wooden blades. |
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Keopele19
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After playing with my friends maze last night I realized just how different a new setup is, and how long it will take me to readjust. I will stick with my current setup and work on a more efficient weight transfer for better power.
Thanks guys
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blade: Petr Korbel
fh: Inspirit Quattro Ultralight 40deg 2.2mm bh: Inspirit Quattro 40deg 2.0mm |
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JimT
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Or you could still try some very decent blade which can be real easy to get used to. My suggestion - Galaxy W-1 with Ultralights or with UL on FH and LKT Rapid Soft on BH. All can be had at http://www.colestt.com
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varghesep
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"I am seeking a possible equipment change to develop a more powerful attacking game without compromising TOO much control."
You can look at the performance ratings of some of the XIOM blades on the XIOM TT website. The rebound and high speed rating can give you a guess of how much control you can have with those blades.
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Peter C
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Keopele19
Wise choice, concentrating on improving your technique; to generate more power will benefit your game. |
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JimT
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I am with Peter here. Unless you are relatively unhappy with your setup or just wanna try smth different out of boredom, it is way more important to spend time on improving your technique, not on trying out new blades and rubbers. |
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mwyatt
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Good decision!
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mizutani_jun
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i got same experience as peter C.
i took 3 months to adjust playing with TBS.
right now i`m playing with maze but you can`t get wrong with korbel.
cheap with all gears you needed.
simply one of butterfly`s masterpieces.
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