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ball_so_hard 
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 Topic: Backhand...good stroke or bad?Posted: 12/05/2012 at 2:04pm |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTQe4qBr_Kw Thanks for watching and please give advice!
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yogi_bear
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Posted: 12/05/2012 at 9:16pm |
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you should use your wrist more
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Posted: 12/05/2012 at 9:54pm |
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i noticed that at times you lean back, also you are doing more of a loop drive but i guess it was intended.
it would be great if we can see you loop against backspin.
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Posted: 12/05/2012 at 10:37pm |
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I feel you are going up and down too much with your body.
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cmetsbeltran15
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Posted: 12/05/2012 at 11:58pm |
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if you look closely there's a DS CS SC roach??
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Posted: 12/06/2012 at 12:53am |
Can't see anything inherently wrong in the technique adopted on this stroke but when do you intend to use this in a real game scenario ? During a rally or for loop kill serve receive ?
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Posted: 12/06/2012 at 1:07pm |
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You have a great backhand. Recently someone on the forum quite correctly mentioned that it is not the back hand but the close to table transition(BH t0 FH and reverse)Almost anyone far from the table can position themselves for the incoming response, this becomes a big problem when you are close to the table. I think it will serve ( no pun intended) you better to practise close to the table fH to backhand.
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Posted: 12/06/2012 at 2:55pm |
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To me, it looks like a good bh hit, but hardly a loop, not even a loop drive, but purely a hit. Works good against topspin, but I bet you have problem using the same stroke against backspin.
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Posted: 12/06/2012 at 3:01pm |
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Great backhand but you are not gona do many of these in real match. Do NOT use more wrist, it reduces power and accuracy. For this particular shot where you dont have to lift backspin and you are not over the table, you don't need wrist at all or very little. Move entore forearm like you do for most power and accuracy.
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puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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Posted: 12/06/2012 at 3:21pm |
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Allen is 2350+ so I would hesitate to advise him on his stroke especially considering how much training he has been doing and where he is in terms of the level of his game.
As someone who played him several times, I can certainly say that he has NO problem on the backhand whatsoever. Any low underspin ball ( even off a serve ) gets totally destroyed with his backhand. Perhaps that's why he feels that he is missing high balls, but I've given him plenty of high ones too and never seen the ball after, just heard the sound of the ball hitting the table... Allen, I am a bit confused whether you are truly seeking feedback regarding your shots or you are just messing around on the forum, especially considering how many posts you've made about the same thing... |
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Back to table tennis...
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Posted: 12/06/2012 at 4:25pm |
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Is the poster even Allen? Maybe it's just someone's strategy to gauge how much forum members think they know or pretend to know.
Edited by racquetsforsale - 12/06/2012 at 4:28pm |
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Posted: 12/06/2012 at 4:37pm |
That was my assumption (also in regards to previous posts)... getting a kick out of getting in-detail feedback from low-level players that believe they know SO much about how to play. I'm sure he's getting the proper critique he needs from his coaches. |
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Posted: 12/06/2012 at 4:54pm |
Sometimes, this can be all about attention...
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Posted: 12/06/2012 at 5:14pm |
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Posted: 12/06/2012 at 11:25pm |
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Bad for someone with a 2300 rating. Your forehand needs a major overhaul as well. In short, you're slow. Your consistency is lacking. It didn't become apparent until I'd watched your match videos against quicker players who happened to be much shorter than you. This is no time to socialize on a forum if you're really serious about meeting your short-term goals.
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Posted: 12/08/2012 at 12:26am |
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Thanks for your advice, I will work harder
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Posted: 12/08/2012 at 12:30am |
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I think that during an intense match at critical moments, my arm gets shaky and I can't control the power of the loop...it happened alot during thebaltimore teams tournament.
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Posted: 12/08/2012 at 12:33am |
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Alot of times during an intense match I would constantly miss high spiny balls off my serve. Because of my shaky hands
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Posted: 12/08/2012 at 1:01am |
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I personally like Allen's backhand. It's a devastating weapon!
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Posted: 12/08/2012 at 1:08am |
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I think it either bothers him that people give him so much negative feedback about his game or he just finds it hilarious the players here rated much lower than him are criticizing everything they can about his game. Keep up the hard work bro. It'll pay off in the end !
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Posted: 12/08/2012 at 1:27am |
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Somebody coached you very well. You start with an inwards bent wrist, snap the wrist, slight twist of the torso at impact - stroke is near perfect. The only reason I wouldn't give it a 10/10 is because you finish a little rigid and maybe a bit short sometimes.
Also, the ball is coming quite high above the net so we get to see more of a topspin drive in the video. It would have been good to see how you do against a lower ball with slight underspin. That's where it becomes apparent if you indeed stop too short - you rob yourself of power. Edited by Lestat - 12/08/2012 at 1:36am |
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Posted: 12/08/2012 at 4:55am |
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For a player of your level, you really shouldn't be asking questions from noobs like us....
IMO, you shouldn't be practising drills like this anymore, should really be practising varied drills for multiball, with varying amounts of backspin, varying height, varying spin, varying speed.... like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbU8DD1gC70 Even noobs like me can blast high underspin balls diagonally consistently if the feed is consistent and slow... Furthermore, you are just blasting the ball diagonally, you should try more challenging positions, for e.g. BH sidespin exiting from the side from the BH corner, BH to opponents wide FH from the middle line, BH diagonal from the middle with varying speeds (not just killshots but medium pace and slow pace shots too)
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