Backhand looping video for newbies

where are you guys playing? looks like ww2 bunker or dungeon  -somewhere underground?

lol, this music is hilarious for a TT video.

On a side note; I don't think you are using your forearm enough.

BMonkey wrote: lol, this music is hilarious for a TT video. On a side note; I don't think you are using your forearm enough.

Well, first I'm not Kreanga and second, I think the way I play this stroke gives me much higher control and more topspin on the stroke. Anyway, I'm a chopper, I don't need that much backhand, just sometimes surprise the opponent when I twiddle and loop in their face

@tpgh2k: I think I've just sent them to your place You want tracking numbers? hehehehhe

no offense, i hate your backhand =[

JKC wrote: I just get the message 'An error occurred. Please try again later.' when I try and watch. I got the same message last night too.

I'm not sure what happened to you but I sometimes get that when load videos on youtube !? After a while resetting the browser it might work. Or just copy and paste the link on : www.keepvid.com in order to download the video so you can watch ( if you want of course )

@Fruit Loop: I dont really understand that but ok. Does it look bad or not effective enough Anyway, I dont use it often so even its bad I dont mind

@tpgh2k: its 100.50 $ too bad ...

TBS9x: your video is fine. THis kind of BH loop is not for power purposes, it is one of the several ways to play it, based on spin. I think I play it almost the same as you do. I use it in situations when I am not in good position to play fast and usualy when I am little bit late and the ball is falling down.
As you said, this stroke with long movement of the arm has higher control. It is good to keep you in a game and to vary the tempo and spin in the game. I think this is very good video and this kind of loop sould be the first to start with

i thought you looked smooth and controlled. and that you have that set of arm mechanics well grooved.

An older Chinese coach here in the US (about US2300 even though he only has one leg that works) showed me a similar stroke (the arm motion was almost the same).

The big difference in what he showed me and what you are doing is that he recommended that

a) the start position should be shoulder forward and dropped
b) the lift comes from the legs - from standing,
c) the stability comes from the hip/torso rotation

and then the arm follows to make a "rainbow" motion as you currently do it.

with more of the body involved, you'll not only have greater consistency (which looks like the goal of this shot) but also, you'll be able to swing more safely (your leg and torso will generate enough power that you don't have to take risks generating inconsistent power with your arm).

i don't even have a BH loop, and yet the coaches clear description (dropped shoulder, then standing and torso rotation with arm moving out and away from center) allowed me to safely and powerfully enough put > 70% of the underspin balls on the table as a loop.

now i just need to find someone to feed me underspin pushes so i can practice it on my own ; i am jealous.

For me, there is no such thing as 'too this' and 'not enough that' unless it affects your consistency and objective, some of, infact most of the best b/hands ever are not 'perfect' technically, perfection is a myth, if it complements your game, its fine.

APW46 wrote: For me, there is no such thing as 'too this' and 'not enough that' unless it affects your consistency and objective, some of, infact most of the best b/hands ever are not 'perfect' technically, perfection is a myth, if it complements your game, its fine.

Sorry - I did not mean to sound critical - and I certainly am in no position to judge. From my limited perspective, I thought TBSx's arm motion was very fluid and looked very comfortable and controlled. It looks like a terrific asset, especially if he is playing combination and twiddling.

APW46 wrote: For me, there is no such thing as 'too this' and 'not enough that' unless it affects your consistency and objective, some of, infact most of the best b/hands ever are not 'perfect' technically, perfection is a myth, if it complements your game, its fine.

Truer words were not said. Everybody has different body mechanics, so different things may work for different people.