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    Posted: 07/30/2013 at 1:24am
Originally posted by AgentHEX AgentHEX wrote:

Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

Originally posted by AgentHEX AgentHEX wrote:

I have a DHS Hurricane Hao that says "Hurricana Hao" on the face, but the scratch-off tag/code authenticates...

In any case, that "consultant" is an idiot.
 
Would you care to share some pics? Never heard of Hurricana Hao either genuine or fake. As far as I know those DHS authentication codes had long been crack and can be bought for just a dollar. Both Hao/King and 655/656 fakes are so common in taobao so people really need to be careful.
 
So far I still have not seen any fake that can copy everything down to the details. Butterfly blades are so well made and fakes are easy to pick out. The Maze in the pics are simply too good to be called a fake.


http://imgur.com/a/fxNzf

The full res images should be quite detailed (@ 16mp) if click on the option in pic's upper right hand corner. If you need anything else let me know.

I suspect you might be right about fake, but hard to tell because it's quite similar to confirmed real ones. Friend of mine got it for me from taobao for only ~$50, but several member of our local community got same blade (or similar cheaper WH's from TB, we thought they were factory seconds) and it plays ok so no big loss even if not legit.
 
 
May be we should start a new thread on your DHS Hao.
 
I am afraid you already knew about the authenticity of your blade. I also have one for cheap from TB and guess what, mine got the exact same serial 101927 as yours! How cool is that!...never trust a word from those TB sellers.
 
I agree it play decent for a 5 ply wood blade and reasonably built. I too hope it is a genuine factory second until I bought a legit HH2 recently (replacement of 656) and the difference is quite obvious. The 656 has a blade face of 160x153x66 while the HH2 is 164x150x60. The handle of 656 is 79x31x23 while the HH2 is 82x32x25. So the face of 656 is bigger, thicker and handle is smaller.
 
May be due to the extra 10% increase in thickness, the 656 is decent in power and stiffer but lack flex and feel. Hope someone with a genuine 656 can comment on the actual size and feel. 
 
For less than double the price of fake 656 I got a HH2 from TT11. You can also buy one PG12 and one PG13 (both genuine) for the price of one fake 656. So the deal of buying fake does not look so sweet after all.
 
 
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Figures. At least I didn't pay 100+. I can check w/ locals who have supposedly legit HH1 (old version w/ red square badge on end) and check size diff with those. Maybe they'll be informed they have smaller fakes, too, haha.
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Originally posted by AgentHEX AgentHEX wrote:

Figures. At least I didn't pay 100+. I can check w/ locals who have supposedly legit HH1 (old version w/ red square badge on end) and check size diff with those. Maybe they'll be informed they have smaller fakes, too, haha.

 
I have that pair as well. HH1 is the replacement of HH and all HH1, 2 and 3 are still in production. The situation of HH is even worst in TB. My HH from TB got a face of 159x153x56 while HH1 is 164x150x56. At least they got the thickness right this time. Handle is the same length but thinner. I suspect they use one mold for both shakehand and penhold blades as their penhold got a roundish face just like their shakehand counterpart. Fake HH is $30 and legit HH1 is $50 so it is not worth it.  
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Where do you get legit HH1 for 50? Hopefully not Taobao? Big smile
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Originally posted by AgentHEX AgentHEX wrote:

http://imgur.com/a/fxNzf

 
Head seems much smaller.
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Where do you get legit HH1 for 50? Hopefully not Taobao? Big smile
 
Saw it once selling from eacheng.net at abt that price. Then it was available from ttnpp for quite some time at $56 or so. You mean the one with the dragon handle?
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dragon handle is hh2..

you you want reliability eacheng, ttnpp, http://www.ping-pong.tw/ 

also the price on ping-pong.tw is not the final price well.. on .tw its 154 usd but that is with two rubbers. minus the rubbers its 124usd

if that helps

also if its a fake its a pretty god damn good looking fake ( from pics above) also hh2 is meant to be 6.3-6.4mm thick


Edited by decoi - 07/30/2013 at 8:43am
Blade: DHS Hurricane Hao
FH: TG3 BS
BH: Xiom Omega 4 Aisa

Blade: Hurricane Hao 2 (656)
Fh: Dhs Gold Arc 3
Bh: Stiga Tour H
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Here is HH1 with dragon handle too
 
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Originally posted by AgentHEX AgentHEX wrote:

Where do you get legit HH1 for 50? Hopefully not Taobao? Big smile
 
I bought it from TT11. It was $60 with 30% off so I actually paid $42 for it. It is cheaper than buying from TB.
 
 
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I believe it is Hurricane Long which got a Dragon head on the back of handle. The one on H-Hao 2 and 3 is a Lion while the one on H-King could be a Tiger (something like the Lion on H-Hao but no hair). HH1 does not come with any animal but the head of Wang Hao in a circle. The same design as his personal blade.
 
I check again with a digital gauge and my HH2 is 6.0 + something. I run a search online and mostly the thickness is between 5.9 and 6.1mm. According to DHS official site it is 6.0 +-0.1mm. One 656 I found is even down to 5.6mm. DHS quality control could be shocking sometime.
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Thanks. Then more precise would be to say, HH1 with the signature. How is it compared to the old HH?
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Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

I believe it is Hurricane Long which got a Dragon head on the back of handle. The one on H-Hao 2 and 3 is a Lion while the one on H-King could be a Tiger (something like the Lion on H-Hao but no hair). HH1 does not come with any animal but the head of Wang Hao in a circle. The same design as his personal blade.
 
I check again with a digital gauge and my HH2 is 6.0 + something. I run a search online and mostly the thickness is between 5.9 and 6.1mm. According to DHS official site it is 6.0 +-0.1mm. One 656 I found is even down to 5.6mm. DHS quality control could be shocking sometime.


Wait, I thought there was only one OG version before the 656 (which you call HH2)? The one with the red label on end you reference? What's diff between HH and HH1?

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there shouldnt be any realistically . just different art 
Blade: DHS Hurricane Hao
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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

Thanks. Then more precise would be to say, HH1 with the signature. How is it compared to the old HH?
 
My HH from TB is probably fake. So it is not proper to compare. All I can say is that HH1 feels more alive with flex and my TB HH got less feedback. Could be due to different rubber used. All reviews I read of HH talks about its lack of FH power but excellent for RPB. My HH is exactly like that. The thicker 656 fix the problem of FH but some complain there is less feel for RPB.
 
 


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imo HH has better ballance than 656/hh2 the decrease in power isnt that great
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Originally posted by AgentHEX AgentHEX wrote:


Wait, I thought there was only one OG version before the 656 (which you call HH2)? The one with the red label on end you reference? What's diff between HH and HH1?

So confusing.
 
DHS blades that carry Wang Hao's name include the following.
 
Hurricane Wang Hao (H-WH) (very thick 5 ply)
Hurricane Hao, later replaced by Hurricane Hao 1 (thin)
Hurricane 656, later replaced by Hurricane Hao 2 (thicker)
Hurricane Hao 3 (thin with 1 fiber glass carbon center layer)
 
So basically only 6 DHS blades carry his name. May be you can also consider the Nittaku Wang Hao (same as H-WH but released in Japan) the 7th. In fact there are only 4 if not counting all the replacement and variation. 
 
You can also find Wang Hao's head under the handle of x5006 and x6006 premade.
 
Not so many comparing to what Butterfly do to Timo.
 
The diff between HH and HH1 as decoi said should be appearance only.
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Still, I have the feeling that HH1 has more feeling because it looks somewhat slimmer and thinner. But unfortunately, it's out of stock on tt11.
 
Don't forget also PG-13 which, though not carrying the name of WH, is still a very truthful remake of HH3, most probably same plyboard - different printing and handle.
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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

Still, I have the feeling that HH1 has more feeling because it looks somewhat slimmer and thinner. But unfortunately, it's out of stock on tt11.
 
Don't forget also PG-13 which, though not carrying the name of WH, is still a very truthful remake of HH3, most probably same plyboard - different printing and handle.
 
HH1/HH does have more feel and flex than the thicker HH2/656. HH1 and old HH both have the same thickness of 56mm and basically the same blade. They are meant for using speed glue rubbers.
 
DHS blades are always sold out fast in TT11. Their price is just too good after discount. Better tell them to send you a reminder when the stock is back. Wonder how much they will priced the new blades when they got them.
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