do you boost?

roundrobin wrote: To all posters:  Unlike using PEDs, using maximum boosted/tuned rubbers are perfectly legal as long as they are obtained from an authorized source!!!  So some moronic posters should stop calling players using boosted/tuned rubbers cheaters UNLESS they are known to get these rubbers from an unauthorized source!!!  Neither of the players I described above is a cheater, because the act of using tuned/boosted rubbers itself is legal, unlike steroids!  It's like comparing apples and cocaine!  You can eat your candied Fuji apple at ITTF World Tours only if it is handed to you by Butterfly, Andro or Stiga, but not if you grew the same Fuji apple in your backyard and candied yourself!  THAT'S THE WHOLE LAW so stop reading more into it!!!

What part of the rule don't you get? There is no rule specifically that states boosting is illegal, it's the altering of the rubber.

From ITTF rulebook:

2.4.7 The racket covering shall be used without any physical, chemical or other treatment.

Now.. you may say, that the manufacturer boosts the rubber, then puts it in the package. That is certainly not illegal, and those that use those rubbers out of the package are not "cheating".

Any other means of boosting, is illegal. I don't care who does it for you, it's still altering the covering.

In many sports. the person using the equipment is responsible for it being within the rules. Is it the same for TT? I'd assume so.

Sure, you may not know what your sponsor did to it, nevertheless, IMO, you're responsible for it. If you would be caught (how, I don't know, unless someone sees them purposely doing so), you can be pissed at your sponsor. Then again, if you have an inkling they are altering the cover, then that's up to you on how you choose to decide whether to play with it or not.

So far all those that openly state they are boosting, then in my eyes, they are cheating IF they are playing in an association that goes by the ITTF rules.






Edited by j-bo - 03/19/2013 at 5:16pm

A small reminder here to RR, from a PM I got not to long ago:

" I will never respond to any of your posts or PMs from now on. This is my promise."

Now, I don't usually share PM's, as that's not my style, but this one was an exeption.

Any way, you are still wrong, several athleths have permission to use stuff that is on the list. mMny of them use medication against asthma, but it is illegal for those who don't have asthma to use it.

Some people just like to think whenever I post something "interesting" it's to target them.  Grow up please. 

Rich215 wrote: j-bo wrote:   MY JOB is all about rules, I know how to read them and interpret them pretty well. Yep..would love to stop the new ball. Then you do realize that plastic balls are currently allowed for use under ITTF rules...and also if they make new rules for specific size changes or other changes to this ball.....you will bow down and accept these rules too.....correct?  My point is that you are sounding as though no matter what the rules are.....they all make perfect sense and it does not matter if they do not make sense and are or are not fair.   I just find it odd that you do not address practicality and logic of rules and how they are applied.  If the ITTF made a rule that anyone with the screen name j-bo on any internet forums plays in any ITTF events...they can only use Mark V rubber in 1.8mm and no other rubber on their blade.  You would then follow that rule correct?    Of course this would never happen as it makes no sense....just like the booster/tuner rule with manufacturing rubbers and use in play.     So why do you not speak of this illogical and unrealistic rule of the boosting issue?

No Rich, I am not saying all rules make perfect sense. Surely that's not the case, not only in table tennis, but in any sport.

But it clearly states that you can't alter the covering. It's not like we can pick and choose what rules we want to follow, can we? (meaning for ITTF rules and those associations that follow them)

Yep.. if I play in an association that follows ITTF rules, I'd abide by them or try and change them if I wanted to go to all the effort to do so.

Yes, I know plastic has always been allowed.

If people want to boost, then they should by all means go to the efforts to try and get a rule change to allow to do so.

And to go further... if the association people play for don't follow ITTF rules, then go crazy, as long as it's within the association's rules that you do follow.

roundrobin wrote: Some people just like to think whenever I post something "interesting" it's to target them.  Grow up please.

Break a rule or break a promise, what's the difference, there is always an excuse to it. Well, I enjoyed the boycott from you as long as it lasted, but I was sure hoping it would last longer.

The issue discussed shouldn't be cheating, it should be a PROBLEM with the way the rules are written. I don't care who thinks they can read them how well, doesn't matter. What matters is the fact that they are poorly created.