Effective Serving

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ashkan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 02/09/2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote ashkan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Effective Serving Posted: 03/25/2007 at 10:04am
	Hi all, I�m an attacker and I use Bryce Fx 2.1 BH/FH on Kreanga Carbon, with a tiny bit of speed glue. After playing years of table tennis now I�ve reached a level where I have to face some deadly opponents and need to learn even better short, and perhaps spinnier short serves. I serve close to the table, from forehand from just under the stomach and try very hard to keep it low , short and spinny if possible. But I keep losing the control of the ball far too often against some of the best players in tournaments. Any tips/advice is gratefully appreciated, Cheers, Ashkan

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forehandloop Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 03/12/2007 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 423	Post Options Post Reply Quote forehandloop Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/25/2007 at 10:09am
	from what i have learnt myself, try to vary your forehand services back-sidespin and top-sidespin. a quick flip for a reverse pendulum will also do to mislead the opponent. as an attacker, you want to be in control of the game right from the service. alternate the direction of your ball to force as weak returns as possible
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ashkan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 02/09/2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote ashkan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/25/2007 at 11:26am
	thanks for the reverse serve tip, i'll try it in the next session. anymore ideas/tips folks?

sverige Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 03/04/2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 422	Post Options Post Reply Quote sverige Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/25/2007 at 11:32am
	Do different kind of serves, like the tomahawk serve(specially the backhand serve). And mix up backhand and forehand serve.
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chronos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 02/27/2007 Status: Offline Points: 1721	Post Options Post Reply Quote chronos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/25/2007 at 12:06pm
	From what little I know, keeping it low and short is the most important because it limits the options the opponents have for return. So if you're able to serve short, even without spin, you are off to a good start and in the running. First, leverage the spin you can generate: Take that short serve, and practice deception - a short serve that looks like it has heavy spin on it can be just as effective as one that really does. Also, practice putting light side spin on the ball, while using deception to make it seem the side spin is going the other way (I like watching waldner do this). To debug your serve for generating heavy spin, check out the schlager training video and compare your technique to his - make sure you're using both the forearm and the wrist for generating spins, start with a low toss for short serves (though he does some high toss short serves there as well), and pay close attention to both height of blade above table when contacting the ball, as well as where the ball bounces on your side - these two variables will control how low and short it is.

sjasi1982m Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Beginner Joined: 01/10/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84	Post Options Post Reply Quote sjasi1982m Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/25/2007 at 12:15pm
	some times it is smart tos erve from the middle of the table; especially when you are facing strong opponents. serving from the middle, into the opponents middle + keeping it short almost guarantees a mediocre return because you take the angle away from your opponent.

sverige Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 03/04/2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 422	Post Options Post Reply Quote sverige Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/25/2007 at 12:17pm
	Like wang hao does.
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pingpongpaddy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 06/27/2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1286	Post Options Post Reply Quote pingpongpaddy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/25/2007 at 2:55pm
	give yourself an hour a week with a sack of 2 dozen balls and a table in a court where the balls can be collected easily. Then Take each one of yr major serves as follows:- Every good serve should give opp 3 problems: 1 length 2 spin 3 direction So lets take yr fh pendulum from bh corner Ensure that from same starting point and similar action you can execute: short to rh bh fast flat (long)to rh bh very short to fh fast down line to fh. Just apply this principle that from every service action beginning you can do those things above. Also just practice your fh chop serve developing ability to serve treble bounce and half long, not forgetting fast long and flat down the line and across. The above systematic approach over the summer will set you up for next season. Remember short serves should be VERY short, and long serves VERY long. In particular weaker players when doing fast long serves (flat or topspin), are too timid to go for the lines. Practice this, and you will be rewarded.
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ashkan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 02/09/2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote ashkan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/25/2007 at 3:51pm
	thanks for all the wise words, do you have any links to the clips of some of the action from pros? 'chronos', thank you for painting such great picture. cheers, Ashkan

chronos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 02/27/2007 Status: Offline Points: 1721	Post Options Post Reply Quote chronos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/25/2007 at 4:59pm
	No problem! I am obsessed with serves right now. Here is a link to the schlager training video, the treatment of serves is very good: http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=353BOSE5 Certainly he is able to generate a lot of spin. It's not in english, I will start a thread now covering the sections, maybe with the whole forums help we can piece together everything to make it clear even without the language.

mdjenders Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 10/24/2006 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 860	Post Options Post Reply Quote mdjenders Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/25/2007 at 5:07pm
	That would be awesome, chronos. I am in the process of trying to improve my serves by incorporating a Kenta-style tomahawk and working on that Schlager video. It would be super if that part of the video was translated somehow.

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