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Extra 7 or Offensive 40 ? |
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tuco
Gold Member Joined: 06/11/2007 Location: ValleyOfTheSun Status: Offline Points: 1432 |
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Posted: 09/13/2007 at 4:53pm |
I am looking to get one of these blades. On paper, they are virtually the same. Which one would you prefer?
Which one is better in terms of
- control
- speed
- hardness
- feel?
thanks in advance for any comments.
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Kennie
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they are very similar but extra 7 feels stiffer. both are 7 plys and both are quite powerful for having such good feeling. the feel of offensive 40 is softer and i think the bounce feels a bit quicker and faster. |
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Blade: YASAKA Ma Lin Soft Carbon
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Stavros
Gold Member Joined: 12/02/2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 1540 |
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Avoid both of them. They are very vibrant , impossible to control the ball. Although they are 7-ply blades ,their thickness is only 5.7(Offensive 40) and 5.8 (extra 7). Their surface is similar to Stiga Clipper, but Clipper is much more consistent.
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reachie85
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i think control based on amount of vibration depends on the person. i never tried the offensive 40, but i have both ma lin carbon and extra 7. to me, extra 7 almost has no vibration compared to ma lin carbon, but i play better with ma lin carbon probably because i'm more used to it. personally i like the way how extra 7 feels: solid, but i'm more used to ma lin carbon, that's why i'm sticking with mlc. another thing i really don't get is why the blade thickness matters... i can understand if it's a 1-ply wood with 1mm difference means a decent amt in the speed and feel, but i don't think thickness plays too much into effect with multi-ply blades with less than half mm thickness difference. my extra 7 is 6.3mm, while my mlc is around 5.8mm, but i don't think anyone would say that mlc is a worse blade than extra 7 just cuz it's thinner.
i don't know how offensive 40 plays, but i believe extra 7 is a very strong candidate: solid, powerful, and great feel. |
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BL: Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive CPen
FH: Haifu Blue Whale 2 BH: Nittaku Nodias |
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PongPong
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Of course, thickness matters. The thinner blades usally give more viberation. I agree with Stavros that X 7 is too thin. I saw myself someone hit his X7 on the table and blade broke right away because it's too thin. |
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reachie85
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so 6.3 mm is considered thin? and i believe that any blades unfortunate enough to get hit the right way against a table would all lose to the table. i still don't think blade's thickness has much to do with vibration, i'd say it's the material based on each individual blade, and maybe the weight, my friend's tbs which is thinner than my mlc, gives virtually no vibration. and i've tried 2 friends' yasaka extras, one was negligibly thicker yet lighter than the other, they feel almost exactly the same, but if i was nit-picking, the thicker/lighter one vibrated just a hair more.
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BL: Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive CPen
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PongPong
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According to Stavros above, "their thickness is only 5.7(Offensive 40) and 5.8 (extra 7). " Compared to 6.3mm, this is big variance. Does Yasaka have problem in quality control?
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reachie85
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i think a lotta yasaka users including myself are happy with their blades, so i'd guess yasaka doesn't. i've actually measured my blades and got the numbers, i'm guessing stavros read the info off of paddlepalace which i've found not to give very accurate info at least regarding the blade thickness. my mlc is in the 5.8-5.9 range, not 5.6 as mentioned on that website, and my e7 is 6.3-6.4 range, not 5.8 as mentioned on that website
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BL: Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive CPen
FH: Haifu Blue Whale 2 BH: Nittaku Nodias |
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Stavros
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I had bought the offensive 40. The thickness is 5.7 for sure.
As for the Extra 7 , I played twice but I didn't noticed the thickness. Richie is right , I saw Extra 7's thickness from Paddlepalace. I'm sorry for any inconvenience caused. I was testing these two blades 1 year ago ,but I found them very vibrant - for me - comparing to Clipper . |
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reachie85
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no inconvenience caused, this is a forum, people discuss stuff, that's what makes forums interesting. as you can see from my sig, i like yasaka blades, so i tend to defend it a lot =P. i've never played with clipper before, but i do understand that it is a great blade as i've heard a lotta positive comments and no negative comments about it.
one thing to consider for the buyer: e7 is a heavy weight, off40 is a medium weight. |
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BL: Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive CPen
FH: Haifu Blue Whale 2 BH: Nittaku Nodias |
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le xex
Super Member Joined: 07/05/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 252 |
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I was thinking about buying one of these blades as well. Does anyone know how these blades compare to the Gergely classic?
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O! Ju Qian
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just get the max wood
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BL: Yasaka Extra Offensive CP
FH: Hurricane 3 Pro BH: Tenergy 05 "Practice is USELESS if you don't understand what you are doing." |
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tuco
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reachie85: I see you are a penholder. Most penhold blades are thicker than the shakehand counterparts, maybe that's why you have had different experiences than Stavros. I am looking for a backup blade to my Dynamix17, which has virtually no vibration. My friend's Korbel, to me, has huge vibration. If these 2 blades are like Korbel, then I may have to look else where. The Stiga Clipper sounds promising. The new Yasaka balsa Plus also look intriguing; does anybody have experience with it yet?
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Kennie
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balsa+ is quite fast and stable for being an balsa blade..dynamix is much faster but balsa+ is much lighter. absolutely one of the best balsa blades the feeling is soft, just like all balsas but the harder wood layers in the blade makes it also stable and powerful.
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Blade: YASAKA Ma Lin Soft Carbon
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reachie85
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ah~ yeah... forgot about the penhold/shakehand blade thickness thing... my bad... always wonder why that's the case though, anyone know why penhold blades are usually thicker than shakehand?
since ur personal preference is as little vibration as possible, from my impression of how yasaka blades feel, most of them wouldn't be your weapon of choice. there is the timo boll spirit to consider if you can get your hands on a cpen version. my friend got his tbs cpen in china which as i mentioned before, has virtually no vibration. we tried each other's blade before, and after about 2 mins of playing like crap and feeling annoyed by the non-vibration/vibration for the both of us, we swore to never try each other's blade again, lol. |
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BL: Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive CPen
FH: Haifu Blue Whale 2 BH: Nittaku Nodias |
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Jeff(ATTC)
Gold Member Joined: 09/22/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1166 |
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Extra 7:
-Hard
-Fast
-Good feeling (High Vibration, I like it)
-Good control with chinese rubbers
Offensive 40:
Might as well get an Extra. Its a few points slower but has more control.
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loopy
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I just got an OFF40 and will be trying it tonight. I'll post my opinion after 9:30 est. |
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tuco
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Hey, Loopy, have you got a chance to play with your OFF40 yet?
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korearulz
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Offensive 40 is too thin for counter loops. Im using offensive at the moment....... but in like a month im going to Nittaku Avalox
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