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jpenlover 
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 Topic: Xiom Omega I and Plasma 430Posted: 06/24/2007 at 10:36am |
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Anyone used these two rubbers?
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ryno
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Posted: 06/24/2007 at 3:26pm |
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I have used omega I and omega3 they are nice rubbers i think they are manufactured by donic.Nice topsheet kinda thick but durable kinda like bryce.the sponge reminds of the jo waldner sponge well at least on omega 3 the sponge on omega 1 reminds me of F1 as for plasma i have not tried it yet
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priior
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Posted: 06/24/2007 at 3:43pm |
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i use plasma 430 now and i really like it. i also have a plasma 470 and i don't like it as much. i switched to the plasma 430 from mark V GPS and the "feel" was _much_ nicer... not to mention the rubber is much faster as well and much spinnier.
i can't compare it to any other rubbers. note: i didn't speedglue the markV gps.. i cant compare to speedglued rubbers either. |
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lim_chye301
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Posted: 06/25/2007 at 12:08am |
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Hi Iam from singapore nice to see your request ,iam now useing the Xiom Omega II the feelling is less bow and the control is good ,drive,blocking you need to push a bit .If you like to drive you should try it .
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aeoliah
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Posted: 06/25/2007 at 2:23am |
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Hi, Lim_chye301, welcome to the forum.
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lim_chye301
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Posted: 06/25/2007 at 3:31am |
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Thanks ,by the way may i know which country are you from?you have sad that your knee caps pan do take care is a serious matter due to your age.
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ryu seungminfan
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Posted: 06/25/2007 at 5:41am |
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use both before. omega 1 is a great rubber. omega 1 can produce more spin than plasma 430. i feel that 430 is a slightly faster rubber but less controllable. omega 1 is more controllable and the feeling is better. omega does not require speed glue at all while 430 needs speedglue to play at it's best
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blade:kokutaku super
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jpenlover
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Posted: 06/25/2007 at 10:44am |
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Thank you all for the great comments!
ryu seungminfan, i am a fan of ryu seungmin too, do you think Omega 1 is suitable for japanese pen holder? |
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priior
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Posted: 06/25/2007 at 11:26am |
even tho andro strongly discourages using speedglue with the plasma 430? unless ur thinking of the Quad 480? |
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Madbrazilian
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Posted: 06/25/2007 at 12:27pm |
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Where can I get the omega rubbers (for that matter any xiom equipment) in the US?
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patrick1v
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Posted: 06/25/2007 at 8:59pm |
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you can get xiom equipment at www.ilpp.com.tw their prices are very good.
send them an email for what you want and they will email you back with total cost incl.shipping.ordere about 6 sheets of rubbers cost about 7 dollars to ship to canada took about 8-9 days
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hjyoo99
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Posted: 06/25/2007 at 9:28pm |
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As I am in Korea, I should say I know better of these rubbers. They brought in huge sensations since released. I am sure most korean tt players have used and liked them. It is being said that Omega 1 is almost like glued bryce while Omega 2 glued sriver, if you know how they play. O2 feels a bit harder than O2. I have once used both on my blade as tt equipment freaks here suggest(O2 on FH, O1 on BH). They both are powerful, spinny, controllable(even for me, a novice). They were designed for the korean tters who love to kill.(You know how RSM plays)
As someone mentioned above, the same european(probably German) manufacturer of Nimbus, F1 and so many other rubbers, makes them.(I guess it's called "ESN".) I invite you all to try them. They are around USD 43 when bought in Korea.
Contact this guy. David Lee at [email protected]
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iakovka
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 4:09am |
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to hjyoo99
How about their durablity?
and maybe, can you say (in degees) about hardness of the sponges on them Omega1 Omega2. (you can compare to other rubbers)/
and which one is harder(you mad a mistake in the message)?
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ryu seungminfan
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 8:20am |
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well actually it's speed-glueable for plasma 430.maybe it won't last that long, but plays better(just my opinion) jpenlover i think omega is a perfect rubber for j-pen. it's play great. gives u the power u want, and the control and feeling u want
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carlosfz
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 8:46am |
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Where did you buy it
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patrick1v
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 8:48am |
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you can get the omega series at www.ilpp.com.tw for $29us a sheet and other xiom stuff
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jpenlover
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 11:53am |
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ryu seungminfan, thanks a lot for the info. I will give it a try.
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songyip
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 12:20pm |
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If Omega II compared with Butterfly Bryce, which is better(include spin and speed comparision)?!
Thanks a lot!
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thenam
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 2:31pm |
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I would disagree with ryu seungmin fan....
Omega 1 has more speed, but less control and spin than Plasma 430...
Omega 1 is faster than plasma 430,
and Omega 2 is faster than Plasma 470.
As I AM Korean, I read a lot of forum articles that are written in Korean by Koreans,
and every body who have used plasma 430 and omega1 says same as I do.
In Korea, seems like more people are using o1 and o2 than plasma 430, 470.
And durability of Omega series are almost same as Plasma series and Nimbus.
Bryce vs Omega 2...
I would say speed glued Bryce is better...
High Tension rubbers are getting closed to speed glue effect...
If Omega 2 was better, why wouldn't pro players use O2, 430, or Nimbus.
Even Ryu Seungmin uses Omega3, which it needs speed glue..
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iakovka
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 6:27pm |
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Maybe it is also a matter of habitualness
They glue all their professional tableTennis life... so they prefer to glue no matter what.
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hjyoo99
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 6:35pm |
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They last for like 2 months if you take good care of them, cleaning after use, protective films, and stuff. Like I wrote above, its one of the tensor bios, so there's not much difference.
And yes, I mistyped when I meant O2(47.5 degrees) feels harder O1(45).
What they are saying is that Omega 1, 2 shows the speedglue effect of 70% of the perfectly glued bryce and sriver. To enjoy the luxury of not having to glue your rubbers everytime you play and uniform level of speedglue effect, you have to sacrifice the rest 30% of it.
Yes thenam must have read same articles in the same korean forum.
The only reason I am using plasma 470 now is that its cheaper than Omegas by usd 13.
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iakovka
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 6:43pm |
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by usd 13??!!!!!!
where do you buy your rubbers?
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iakovka
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 6:46pm |
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It is 3-4 euro difference. Not more
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hjyoo99
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 7:04pm |
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Sorry, I made a mistake. Its USD 8-9. They are selling Plazmas at a promotional price. |
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patrick1v
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Posted: 06/26/2007 at 10:24pm |
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www.ilpp.com.tw selling the omega series rubbers for $29us a sheet.
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ryu seungminfan
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Posted: 06/27/2007 at 7:58am |
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plasma are more brittle, plasma tend to chip off more easily. omega is more durable
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jpenlover
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Posted: 06/27/2007 at 2:20pm |
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Do Omega I and II have the loud sound as a glued Bryce when you hit the ball?
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thenam
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Posted: 06/27/2007 at 5:44pm |
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it does have a loud sound. but glued bryce has more sound.i think even Nimbus has loud sound than Omega
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Posted: 11/02/2007 at 2:16pm |
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this thread is really confusing, from xiom website it looks like
Omega I is for speed and Omega 2 is for control. But I did see some comments that say otherwise?. I am planning on getting Omega 2 since it helps dwell time and has better control?. Is Xiom website wrong in rating the rubbers?. Any suggestions are helpful. |
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opinari
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Posted: 11/02/2007 at 4:19pm |
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What theNam and hjyou99 said seems to accord with the general consensus on the nets. I have played with Omega I, Plasma 430, sriver/bryce and would agree with them as well.
As a sidenote, if you're still a developing player, tensor rubbers might not be the best choice. They tend to reward an aggressive game that requires correct form/consistency. |
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