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    Posted: 07/02/2007 at 9:22am
i've been reading reviews all over the internet about rubbers good for looping at far/mid distance, euro type looping. currently i use tackyfire sp on both wings, speed glued. i like them, but sometimes i find it hard to keep the ball on the table. i need to replace them, but i don't play tt for a long time, so i need some advice.
tf sp has an almost tacky topsheet, and a hard sponge, i'm looking for a non tacky rubber, but very grippy too, but somewhat faster and softer. i've been reading that sriver L is a great looping rubber, and sriver g2 also, wich one is grippier? i know that g2 is a lot faster, because it's a tensor, but wich one is softer? and what abou cermet? i've also been thinking about tibhar's torpedo, it seems like a very good rubber for my game... althoug i'm an alround atacker, 75% of my game is based on looping and blocking actively.
any advice? (i don't intend to replace my blade, i love the optimum sync)
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Originally posted by humint humint wrote:

i use tackyfire sp on both wings, speed glued. (...) but sometimes i find it hard to keep the ball on the table. (...) but i don't play tt for a long time, so i need some advice.
thanks!

This is a very bad setup for a beginner. No speed glue, slow allround blade, classic standard 2.0-2.2mm rubber like Sriver, Donic Vario, Stiga Mendo. No tensor rubbers. By the way, G2 is not considered a tensor because it doesn't have a tensor sponge.
Stiga makes good blades, but the Optimum Synch is much too hard for your needs at the moment. Stiga Allround Classic is much better or Donic Appelgren Allplay.
The fact that you don't get the ball on the table has nothing to do with the rubber, setup or whatsoever, it's only your missing technical basic skills. This is totally normal. The above equipment recommendations are more or less universally considered the best setup for learning a decent topspin technique. It's not easy to play topspin with this setup, but this is exactly the reason why it's so good for learning Wink
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You should give more information about your style, skills, ...
What are your strong points, the weak ones ...
 
And then we can try to give you a good setup to improve
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Originally posted by YATTP YATTP wrote:

Originally posted by humint humint wrote:

i use tackyfire sp on both wings, speed glued. (...) but sometimes i find it hard to keep the ball on the table. (...) but i don't play tt for a long time, so i need some advice.
thanks!

This is a very bad setup for a beginner. No speed glue, slow allround blade, classic standard 2.0-2.2mm rubber like Sriver, Donic Vario, Stiga Mendo. No tensor rubbers. By the way, G2 is not considered a tensor because it doesn't have a tensor sponge.
Stiga makes good blades, but the Optimum Synch is much too hard for your needs at the moment. Stiga Allround Classic is much better or Donic Appelgren Allplay.
The fact that you don't get the ball on the table has nothing to do with the rubber, setup or whatsoever, it's only your missing technical basic skills. This is totally normal. The above equipment recommendations are more or less universally considered the best setup for learning a decent topspin technique. It's not easy to play topspin with this setup, but this is exactly the reason why it's so good for learning Wink




maybe i didn't explain my situation properly. i've been playing tt and coached for 6 years now, but never really got interested in competing. my first set up was kenny pro and flextra. then i moved to yasaka mark V in a andrej grubba blade, and althoug this is the first year i'm competing, i've always been able to beat most of the competing players form the club where i've been training. in terms of technique my setup is suitable for me, i can control it fine, i have good spinny serves (pendulum, reverse pendulum, and backhand serves), i'm a good looper, specially slow and very spinny loops (my loop drive is nothing special, but it's not bad either), i'm a good blocker too, specially with my backhand. and i disagree when you say that the optimum sync is too hard, i feel it has just the perfetc ration between stifness and vibration, i love this blade. the reason i posted this topic is simply that i'm not really well informed about rubbers' caracteristics, because i never really spent time trying or reading reviews about themWink
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i forgot to mention, and it maybe important, i'm a good player near the table, but i'm also consistent form far-mid distance. my serves also allow me to be a pretty good 3rd ball atacker. there is no special skill that i can point out, but i can say securely that i'm a good alround atacker.
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