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    Posted: 07/04/2007 at 2:07pm
I have a question: what�s the best glue to hold a rubber treated by ecolo expander II?
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Any rubber cement that you applied at least 4 coats and put in a press afterwards!
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Falco Tempo Unlimited is a new water based speed glue that is much more sticky than rubber cement and it has pretty good speed glue effects that last for many days.    I found that when I used rubber cement or basic chack or speed glue on an EEII treated rubber, the rubber curled too strongly for the glue to hold it flat to the blade.   The Falco Tempo Unlimited will definitely hold it flat.
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After applying EEII my gluing technique is this:-

1) Allow an extra day for the EEII to dry even when it looks completely dry.
2) Place a tissue on the surface of the sponge and apply a little pressure to ensure any excess EEII is removed from near the surface (even though it looks completely dry).
3) Apply 1 good coat of glue to the blade (I make the outer 1cm of the blade rough with rough sandpaper), 4 good coats to the rubber and leave overnight to fully dry. Personally I use speed glue for this as it seems to dry more fully.
4) Attach the rubber to the blade and apply a good edging tape to the bat.
 
I have not needed to clamp yet.
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Theoretically any type of glue should be just fine.  If the rubber is heavily treated by EE2 and it curls up a lot, then just put a few more extra coats of glue to get some buildups.  Use wet glue method only if you have some sort of press, such as Yasaka Clicky Press.
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The key is step 2 in Juan King Carlo description!
 
2 layers of rubber cement on the rubber and a thin one on the blade has always done the trick for me...
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If you've got a hard rubber with strong curl due to EE II then I've had trouble with getting H3 to stick with 2 coats of rubber cement and a coat on the blade.  I've found that the rubber would lift off the blade down by the handle and up by the blade tip at 1 and 11 o'clock.    I had to let the curl caused by the rubber cement die down before putting it on the blade.    This is why I recommended the FALCO.  I haven't tried it with an EEII treated hard sponge, but it is so much stickier than rubber cement that its got to work great.
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