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Poll Question: Which Player has the Best backhand
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7 [3.91%]
8 [4.47%]
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11 [6.15%]
3 [1.68%]
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loop: Schlager (powerful and quick), Kreanga (big stroke and powerful)

add power blocking or hitting: Ai Fukuhara, Chen Jing, Waldner and me??? joking

Traditional penholder: Kim Taek Soo, Ryu Seung Min

New generation penholder: Wang Hao (more spin), Ma Lin (quick, very quick..)

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Fedor Kuzmin has an incredible backhand as well..

 

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For japanese penholder style I would vote for chiang pen lung.

Chinese penholder would probably be Malin. Lots of variation when blocking. Wang Hao is much like Shakehand backhand, that doesnt mean this the best one. Since he usually loses rallies when changing backhand to backhand balls against consistent players.

I would say the most efective backhands are those ones with fast reaction. They donīt let the ball reach the highest point. This is the case of Wang Nam, Chen qi and Ayaso Umemura. These are for sure very efective backhands. Chaun Chi Yuan can also make lots of pressure with his backhand strokes.

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Have you seen Aleksandar Karakasevic's Backhand?I think it is more powerful and accurate than Keanga's backhand.

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Originally posted by PingPongPang PingPongPang wrote:


Traditional penholder: Kim Taek Soo, Ryu Seung Min

New generation penholder: Wang Hao (more spin), Ma Lin (quick, very quick..)

 

Ryu has a terrible BH.  His backhand is not even close to his coach Kim Tae Sook.  He can only block and occassionally use the BH sweeping attack on weak balls (and he missed more often than hit with that backhand sweeping attack of his).  Ryu is OVERRATED!!!  Just because he won the Olympic gold does NOT automatically make his strokes and techniques the best.  He's NOT consistent and he's been slipping in ranking eversince.  It is much easier to win a major championship then to be consistently good at the top of the world.  Look at MaLin and WangLiQin, they are both consistent and stayed no 2 and no 1 in the world for months.

Good penhold backhand players:

Ma Lin, Kim Tae Sook, Chiang Peng Long, Gao Jun (her backhand defense is amazing against other women players), Wang Hao (RPB), Liu GuoLiang, Jiang JiaLiang

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Actually is pretty much agreed upon by most of the Chinese coaches that Ryu Seung Min has a better backhand than Kim Taek Soo. His slower footwork basically forced him to work on a backhand. His push-block in more consistant and his serves are better, but compared to Kim Taek Soo his lobbing is pathetic.
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Originally posted by TT_Freak TT_Freak wrote:

Actually is pretty much agreed upon by most of the Chinese coaches that Ryu Seung Min has a better backhand than Kim Taek Soo. His slower footwork basically forced him to work on a backhand. His push-block in more consistant and his serves are better, but compared to Kim Taek Soo his lobbing is pathetic.
 

ryu better bh that kim taek soo, you're kidding right, ryu's bh is so terrible. Just because ryu works more on his bh dosent mean its more consistent.

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I think deng japing and chinag peng lung have the best bh and when wang hao just started out, I think he had the best bh since his bh was so new to the world
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Originally posted by faux123 faux123 wrote:

Originally posted by PingPongPang PingPongPang wrote:



Traditional penholder: Kim Taek Soo, Ryu Seung Min

New generation penholder: Wang Hao (more spin), Ma Lin (quick, very quick..)



Ryu has a terrible BH. His backhand is not even close to his coach Kim Tae Sook. He can only block and occassionally use the BH sweeping attack on weak balls (and he missed more often than hit with that backhand sweeping attack of his). Ryu is OVERRATED!!! Just because he won the Olympic gold does NOT automatically make his strokes and techniques the best. He's NOT consistent and he's been slipping in ranking eversince. It is much easier to win a major championship then to be consistently good at the top of the world. Look at MaLin and WangLiQin, they are both consistent and stayed no 2 and no 1 in the world for months.


Good penhold backhand players:


Ma Lin, Kim Tae Sook, Chiang Peng Long, Gao Jun (her backhand defense is amazing against other women players), Wang Hao (RPB), Liu GuoLiang, Jiang JiaLiang



Considering jpenholder backhand block & added power block Ryu Seung Min is pretty good. Some say his added power block is even better than his coach (kim taek soo). You could be the judge who say yes or no. I'm not saying he's the best in his class. I don't really know since I've no played him. But just by watching his games, his backhand is quite efficient.

Lee Jung Woo, Chiang Peng Lung and Kim Taek Soo are good too. Korean style penhold backhand smash is definitely the best in the world.

Also, getting an Olympic Gold medal is not about overrated/underrated. It's his real deal. Ryu Seung Min's serve was his killer weapon in the Olympics. Remember how Waldner suffered in the semi-final? He's still one of the most dangerous threats for China. So I've no idea why you say that he's overrated. His stroke is somewhat close to Kim Taek Soo.

Consistency is another good point. Is hitting more consistent than looping?? You're comparing players that have different equipments. Is a F1 Ferrari faster than a WRC WRX?? for smooth surface/pavement F1 is of course thousand times faster. For rough surface and slippery surface, WRC cars with proper tires would grip and go. Same concept I can apply to PingPong. Ryu Seung Min don't power loop with his backhand if I remember rightonly control loop if you see it in a match. Ma Lin and Wang LiQin that you talked about both use backhand loop. They can both have a better control on the ball. If you argue about the consistency with players with different equipment I've nothing to say. Like I said, I listed Ryu in my Jpenholder catagory.

Sometimes I was amazed by Ryu Seung Min's backhand add power block. It's as fast/strong as shakehander's block. His stroke is just traditional (Korean). Personally I like Ryu Seung Min's stroke better than Kim Taek Soo's.

I was just listing who is on the top of its class in my opinion. If you argue about strokes and stuff, go ahead and say who you think is the best. And please don't push anything back to me. I'm just saying what I 've got in mind.
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surely kreanga...
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Originally posted by Sandokan Sandokan wrote:

surely kreanga...

kreanga hardly gets his big bh in a game. I think its the best but he rarely uses it.

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Has anyone voted for Kong yet? His backhand has so much variation, consistancy, and accuracy. He rarely loses a backhand exchange because he just never misses. Also, he can kill loose balls down the line so easily. Even without the power of kreanga or some other players, kong can out hit pretty much everyone on the backhand side.
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well i would say its kreanga, cuz his backhand looks just crazy.... even though i think boll has shown some nice backhands, too...
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Originally posted by zenmaster742 zenmaster742 wrote:

Has anyone voted for Kong yet? His backhand has so much variation, consistancy, and accuracy. He rarely loses a backhand exchange because he just never misses. Also, he can kill loose balls down the line so easily. Even without the power of kreanga or some other players, kong can out hit pretty much everyone on the backhand side.

kong never misses until someone else goes to his fh in a rally. Its consistent but not always what is needed to win a point or what is needed to be considered the BEST backhand. His bh cant be garanteed to win every point he uses it in

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Dear table tennis Avid fans... there are many reasons why kreanga have a crazy backhand over others. i have been trying to develop the backhand of kreanga myself and has not been near to it. first of all kreanga had a very physical training during his early years ( Gymnastics ) his arms, legs, and body is so flexible that he can do weird backhands with power and spins while others cannot. although no player can match the power of his backhands, This does not mean that his backhand is most effective. A lot of players in the top 10 have more effective backhands but has less power compared to kreanga. Also in this forum somebody said that "karakasevic's" backhand is more powerful than kreanga.....well i have seen karakasevic play and its true.....but he is not that consistent as kreanga and his backhand has less spin...just speed.....( this means to much power is really not that good ) karakasevic flaw is the selection of shots although he has quite a good imagination in creating his shots, it does not win him points at times. overall kreanga wins over karakasevic.

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I'm glad someone's mentioned a) Oh Sang Eun and b) Kong.
Among older players,both Rosskopf (killer loop) and Persson (high flat smash) had two of the most exciting shots in the game.And how about the late Mr Grubba??
Kreanga is also really exciting to watch,but he wants to smash all the time.Oh,Kong and Smirnov (in the great Russian backhand tradition-Gomozkov,Mazunov etc) have the best controlled b/hs for my money.
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its had got to be kreanga all the way
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Originally posted by isuckatTT isuckatTT wrote:

its had got to be kreanga all the way

have u even seen kreanga's bh b4?

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of course!!
its that one thats like some guy is swatting a misquito with a pingpong paddle in the air..
its sweet..
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Originally posted by isuckatTT isuckatTT wrote:

of course!!
its that one thats like some guy is swatting a misquito with a pingpong paddle in the air..
its sweet..

thats pearson

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woops... sry.. i didnt know that..

then i think pearson has the best bh
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obviously kreanga! he rocks my socks!
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I have to say, I think that kreanga is overated, good bh but hardly uses it, same with shclager, but we al have are own definintions of best bh
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you have all forgotten who best backhand actually belongs to. its king kong linghui. my coach told me that the entire chinese national team models its backhand off of kong linghui's. his loop is quick, powerful, and has huge kick. the stroke is also very quick, so he can loop rally very well. his consistency also makes his backhand the best.
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i think kong and waldner's backhand are still the best
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It was a toss up for me between Kreanga and Boll.  I chose boll since it is more compact.
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to me, Chen Qi's backhand is almost perfect in both placement and power.
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schlagers backhand is diffrent than the others players.

kreanga and wang and timo have an  original backhand spin . but maybe kreanga have more power in his hand .

 

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did you mean only backhand attacking stroke?
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