Inspirit Quattro is here, V2

Thank You for the translation.

thx for the reply pingpongrob , sorry for the bad quality of the picture, the rubber has the size and hardness on that stamp, although i wouldn't give it a 41*

anyway pls tell me if the regular inspirit bends like that!

it would be nice if someone put a pic with a legit regular inspirit...

The curve on your rubber is no differant to many European Rubbers, once they have been speed glued many time's and left to dry out. Its completely normal. Not sure about the stamping though. Can yo take a closer pic for us.

When I get back Home in 10 days, I will take a picture of a new sheet, just to show how it looks.

cole_ely wrote: Most of the inspirit and quattro rubbers I've seen don't have much of a curl to them from tension.  But that stamp is totally foriegn.  It seems like a stamp I've seen before but I can't place the company.   As to what Rob has said about legitmate dealers, he's saying what he's supposed to say.  Every company has their channels and there's a lot of gray market stuff floating around.  Every authorized dealer of every brand says the same thing.  I doubt he meant it personal against hagissv.

Of Course, nothing Personel , to be truthful i didn't even mention Haggisv name. Its the assumption that was made by some.

cole_ely wrote: Most of the inspirit and quattro rubbers I've seen don't have much of a curl to them from tension.  But that stamp is totally foriegn.  It seems like a stamp I've seen before but I can't place the company.

Rob

I have that same stamp on 2 sheets of 2.2mm 40% Inspirit I got from Eacheng.net and it plays closer to Bryce FX controlwise, than the 44% Inspirit you supplied.

The two sheets I have both curled up as much as in the picture. It made it harder to stick onto a blade that wasn't sanded round the edge.

The 44% Inspirit I got from you has better control, particularly on the forehand of a Timo Boll Spirit; when looping close to the table, than the 40% Inspirit from Eacheng.

Logic would suggest I should have better control over the softer 40% sponge, but it's not the first time I've found myself playing more consistently, using a harder sponge.

Still a rubber that performances well on my good nights, but I do find myself making more errors with it than the 44% version.

I suspect it's from a batch of Inspirit, that was meant for the Chinese home market, rather than the A1 Inspirit; considered export grade.

Thanks Cole,
This is what I have been talking about all Along. That is why I expected anyone selling it in Australia to purchase from me, And anyone selling in the USA purchase from you.  That way they would be selling premium Quattro instead of the inferior Chinese version, made for the Chinese Market.

And thanks to everyone out their that didn't believe me, and had the nerve to call my comments Slander. Try putting yourself in my boots.

All I ever try an do is Help, We are all different, have different opinions, but still try and help each other.

Nothing -- one of many problems, especially at smaller tournaments unless the friction testing devices are very affordable.

jcdi wrote: pingpongrob wrote: Thanks Cole, This is what I have been talking about all Along. That is why I expected anyone selling it in Australia to purchase from me, And anyone selling in the USA purchase from you.  That way they would be selling premium Quattro instead of the inferior Chinese version, made for the Chinese Market. And thanks to everyone out their that didn't believe me, and had the nerve to call my comments Slander. Try putting yourself in my boots. All I ever try an do is Help, We are all different, have different opinions, but still try and help each other. You're such a good guy ! You said you have been negociating with Dawei not to sell their products to anyone else in Australia but you, and now you are warning potential custumers that if they purchase from someone else it might not be premium quality... Remind me the story of the guy who poisoned the well and then shouted out that it is poisoned and people should come and drink in his tavern... Of course you do that for helping and informing, such a sweetie. Noooo, it is not a big bucks matter, you swear ! How could someone be nasty enough to imagine so... Are you taking us for fools ? You talk about your boots. They are big and noisy. We hear them come from miles. You've started your tricky play at DTTW and Denis warned you. Now you do that again here at Mytt.net. Where else will you go then ? Don't you have your own forum where you can slander your competitors as much as you want ? Nobody will blame you there .

Honestly you are such a clown, Grow up and get a real life.

Dawei negoiated with me to become their sole distributor in Australia, just Like one of a kind has Juic.

Is their something wrong with that, I normally don't get nasty, but you are such a fool with your comments.

Go and find someone else to abuse, its obvious that you dont understand rationale. None of my comments are out of line. THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS. And you bagging me cannot change that.

Once again if you didn't understand it the first time GROW UP and get a life.

I dont use this forum to sell items, i have never placed an add in this or the other forum, all I have ever done is let members now their is an alternative to buy Dawei products in Australia. IS THERE SOMETHING REALLY WRONG WITH THIS.
Its obvious by the tone of your remarks that you dislike me, well do yourself a favour and keep your remarks to your self.

jcdi wrote: You're such a good guy ! You said you have been negociating with Dawei not to sell their products to anyone else in Australia but you, and now you are warning potential custumers that if they purchase from someone else it might not be premium quality... Remind me the story of the guy who poisoned the well and then shouted out that it is poisoned and people should come and drink in his tavern... Of course you do that for helping and informing, such a sweetie. Noooo, it is not a big bucks matter, you swear ! How could someone be nasty enough to imagine so... Are you taking us for fools ? You talk about your boots. They are big and noisy. We hear them come from miles. You've started your tricky play at DTTW and Denis warned you. Now you do that again here at Mytt.net. Where else will you go then ? Don't you have your own forum where you can slander your competitors as much as you want ? Nobody will blame you there .

hi fellas im new to this forum but i have been reading for a while now, i was sooo upset after reading the above post that i had to register and comment back.
it sounds like ur working for his competition because i have read all these posts and thats all i can hear if it is anyone slanderising someone its you
he is aloud to make a living and is a aloud to have an opinion i think thats ur very wrong when it comes to the way ur handling this subject and im sure that people wont make statments that are false

jonathon

jcdi wrote: pingpongrob wrote:  Honestly you are such a clown, Grow up and get a real life.   Thks for the recommendation. However, I'm 45, married, 3 kids. Got a good job, have friends, nice TT club and family ok. I know what business is, and that there is very few ethic in there. Now, a TT forum, isn't a place where you can warn readers against your competitors. Have you ever seen Cole, Haggisv or TTsam saying that their products are genuine and/or premium quality compared to other retailers ? They are keeping a polite neutrality and we thank them for that. Could you then keep this place clean and friendly ?

Thanks for giving me your life story, Its my Job to ensure that when it comes to dawei Products sold in Australia, the right thing is Done.

You just cant understand it can you. If another seller, (and i did not state it was One Of a Kind, someone else made that assumption) was to parralell import the Dawei Product, and it was not of the First Quality, then it could affect my reputation, and the reputation of the supplier. THATS NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND IS IT.

If you are 45 as you state, and have kids, a good job etc. why cant you understand what I'm saying. From the post above, you can see that someone has a Inspirit with a (we think) Yinhe stamp on the sponge, is it not strange. And Is it wrong to warm members about Funny Business that might be going on. There must also be something wrong with speaking my mind, on a public forum, Or maybe I should only type what others want to hear. Then i would be liked even more.

I will tell your again, in better words, ACT YOUR AGE, it is a public forum, on the world wide web, where lot of people spread the word about various matters relating to table tennis, and thats exactly as I have done.

The very nature of the internet allows us the choice to surf websites from all over the world from the comfort of our computer.

It also allows us to compare prices and buy Dawei products cheaper from China if we choose to do so.

Dawei have admitted to Cole that they produce cheaper and lesser quality versions of their products for the Chinese Home market, whilst sending their A1 grade products to overseas dealers.

It is human nature to look for bargains and some will be happy with what they buy from China because they will receive a blade or rubber from a good batch. Some will not be so lucky and get a blade or rubber from a poorer batch.

I myself have noticed that the 2.2m 40% Inspirit I got from Eacheng performs fine on various blades, but it definitely isn't as good as the 2mm 44% Inspirit I got from pingpongrob; which has much better control and works brilliantly on the Wavestone and Michael maze forehands.

Whilst I understand Rob's point of view, which is based on the premise that he would rather players buy export grade Inspirit; through overseas dealers like himself and  benefit from it's better performance, which makes sense to me having experienced the difference first hand; realistically it is unlikely to happen; whilst it so easy to buy inspirit or any other TT product from anywhere else it's available in the world.

The benefit of the internet is we can read about and discover all sorts of useful information about our sport and get wise to products worth checking out..

The curse of the internet is we can sometimes get caught out buying one of the lower quality Dawei products, destined for sale on the Chinese market or a fake, which will leave you with a bad impression.

Whilst it makes commercial sense to release their non export grade products onto the Chinese market, I don't think Dawei are being wise producing lesser quality products for their home market personally.

The phrase "Caveat Emptor" i.e. "buyer beware" comes to mind.

@reaper of aces

I don't like the two qualities thing either. It happens because some dealers in china absolutely refuse to pay over a certain amount for their products.

Or it can be a situation where they run a batch that came out poor. These chinese companies are often hanging on by a thread. They can't afford to throw it away. So they go out and find some dealer to buy them at a reduced price. I think that happens a lot with dhs. One time they stuck friendship with some of the worst dhs #22 ever under some wang nan. Tom ended up taking it all back on credit I believe. Total recall.