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aXis 
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 Topic: Defensive Blades...Posted: 09/18/2007 at 9:31am |
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hello :), im thinking of buying a defensive blade and im considering the following:
Donic Defplay Senso, Donic Defplay Classic Senso, BTY Matsush*ta Pro ,Stiga TUBE Defensive, Joola Tactics and Joola Toni Hold...
any opinions and info about these blades would be greatly appreciated :)
Also, what does Contr.-Elastic in Donic's terms mean? o.o
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Posted: 09/18/2007 at 9:33am |
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Yasaka Sweeper, consider this or new Nittaku def. blade or...
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Posted: 09/18/2007 at 12:06pm |
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Gambler Kevlar Oversize, for the thrifty player... would be among my favorite blades, even if it was twice it's tag of $32...
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Nittaku Refoma (1.5mm) Yasaka Phantom 011 (OX) |
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a23096713
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Posted: 09/18/2007 at 2:31pm |
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Matsuhita Pro > should be the fastest amount all the choice that you have, also the smallest hitting area with smaller handle.
Stiga Tube Defensive > in contrast, it's the SLOWEST amount all the choice that you put here, but it is probably the biggest and the softest as well. It doesn't matter which rubber I tried on it, it just SLOW... Donic Defplay.. I forget which one I tried... anyways, i remember it's not that slow. nor fast.. it should be a bit faster than tube defensive. (well when two blades are close to terms of speed, hard to tell them apart when i don't actually tried them side by side.) But that is how my memory serve me. Both Tube Def and Defplay has the sense of hollow feeling when you hit them, and they are much slower when you try to loop kill a shot. you might find the shot goes no where as fast as you expected. but to defense, i think they are wonderful blades. including matsush*ta pro, a fine ALLROUND defensive blade. Where the others are more DEFENSIVE oriented. |
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Chop, Chop, and Counter Loop!
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Jack87
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Posted: 09/19/2007 at 2:11am |
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Yeah, the MPS is designed to be playable at a professional level, and while it might be slightly too fast for the heaviest chops, (and certainly below 2000) it plays all shots very well, including loops with the right setup. In contrast, the Tube DEF will never (for most players) feel right when you're on offense, though I agree it feels great while defending.
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varghesep
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Posted: 09/19/2007 at 10:10am |
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What kind of defensive game you play. What you do in the backhand what do you do in the forehand? Are you a blocker, chopper, passive or agressive?
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Posted: 09/19/2007 at 10:48am |
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i have a toxic three great blade slow slow slow sell it to you cheap.
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aXis
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Posted: 09/19/2007 at 12:25pm |
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im a passive chopper
 ....chopping on the backhand and forehand... |
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Posted: 09/20/2007 at 2:25am |
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I would suggest Butterfly Matsush*ta Pro Blade - not Pro Special.
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If you are a passive chopper without any attack in mind.I would say the Stiga tube Defense is better for you. It doest offer a good amount of hitting area. Also, it's a soft blade with slow down most of the balls that your opponent can throw at you.
If you want to chop till there is no tomorrow and let your opponent give up. that is... |
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drew collins
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Posted: 09/20/2007 at 5:55am |
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a good choppers blade is joo se hyuks from butterfly
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Jack87
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Posted: 09/20/2007 at 12:12pm |
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the joo or MPS are great for what is essentially a modern defender, but for passive defending, yeah, i'd go a little slower. Can't go wrong with that Tube DEF, honestly, and if you're money concious (and would never like to attack again
 ) you could elect for a Toxic 3. the Toxic 5 is slightly faster, closer to ALL, and with that you can produce decent loops here n there as well.
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Posted: 09/20/2007 at 5:01pm |
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I have a joo se hyuk and matsush*ta pro special for sale or trade. :-). The are GREAT for defenders.
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Posted: 09/20/2007 at 9:01pm |
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They are or you can go with DR. Neubauer Special !!!
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Posted: 09/20/2007 at 9:08pm |
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Toxic 5 is great for passive defence, with the odd attacking shot. Nice and light and very cheap too
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Posted: 09/20/2007 at 9:14pm |
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...and I have one for sale in excellent condition, what a coincident ?!?
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Posted: 09/20/2007 at 9:17pm |
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With 2 people endorsing it, it must be good
 The OP needs to buy this blade!
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Posted: 09/20/2007 at 9:18pm |
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TTReactor just sold me a couple blades and I'm very happy with the price and quality. I'm still looking for Dr. N at a good price. I don't want to go homeless to buy the blade.
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Posted: 09/21/2007 at 9:22am |
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im kind of leaning towards the Stiga Tube Defensive and the Joola Tactics...has anyone had any experience with these blades?
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Posted: 09/21/2007 at 11:09am |
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Nittaku Violin or Vioncello. Soft and not too fast.
Its softness allows spin manipulation....very important at higher level.
and definitely fast enough for offensive game.
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Posted: 09/21/2007 at 12:17pm |
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I have hit with the Tube DEF, and if you're chopping off of both sides, you really can't go wrong. As mentioned, though, by a couple of posters, the Toxic 5 is a very stable blade, excellent for chops, though it seems rather finicky to me when looping -- the sweet spot is obviously not near as big as you'd like on an oversized all-wood blade.
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aXis
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Posted: 09/22/2007 at 12:37pm |
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how big is the sweet spot on the toxic 3 and toxic 5?...im getting interested
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aXis
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Posted: 09/23/2007 at 10:44am |
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....also, is the Toxic 3 too slow even for drives?
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