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hut8 
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 Topic: hinoki bladesPosted: 09/23/2007 at 11:02pm |
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Do you need to seal hinoki wood blade and if what sealer would you use. |
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thenam
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Posted: 09/23/2007 at 11:07pm |
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i actually havne't seen anyone who seals their 1-ply hinoki blade...
i think hinoki blade itself is strong enough...
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aeoliah
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Posted: 09/23/2007 at 11:12pm |
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Haha, sorry Thenam, you are missing one : me.
I seal all my blades including my single ply hinokis. I use wood varnish and coat it with a rag lightly. I don't know if this is actually not necessary but I do it to pacify my mind, thinking that my expensive blades are well protected against splintering. |
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thenam
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Posted: 09/23/2007 at 11:13pm |
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oops...
i'm not interested sealing my blade surface...
but i would like to seal my sides...
do you also use wood varnish to seal the side?
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kingnike12
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Posted: 09/23/2007 at 11:21pm |
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i've heard from pros that it's not good to seal hinoki because it changes the characteristic of the wood and the feel.
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alfie
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Posted: 09/23/2007 at 11:36pm |
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you don't need to seal hinoki,cypress or koto.
Limba is a top ply that for sure needs to be sealed,I would also seal Ayous wood
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Stavros
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Posted: 09/24/2007 at 2:40am |
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I fully agree with Alfie.
Don't seal a hinoki wood, you will change the blade characteristics. Hinoki doesn't splinter! |
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aeoliah
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Posted: 09/24/2007 at 3:33am |
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I seal the sides with wood varnish too, and I do several coats to protect it. Perhaps I am not that sensitive, I am not complaining about my sealed hinoki (or is it because I seal it very lightly?)
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cole_ely
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Posted: 09/24/2007 at 9:16am |
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Except I've seen hinoki carbons pull away from the carbon in patches.
If you're concerned about changing characteristics of the blade, a nice option is hairspray. Works really well too. I use it on my cheapest Kama blades that are only $10. |
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Posted: 09/24/2007 at 12:52pm |
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I sealed both of my Butterfly Jonyer-H blades with sanding sealer. Both of them needed it too, as each of them had a few one to two inch grains pulled out after the first gluing.
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Stavros
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 1:22am |
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I have a Gergely many years and the surface is perfect.
I switched to Gergely 21 because of the straight handle and the low weight. |
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theman
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 2:45am |
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any 1 ply hinoki shakehand blades that r CHEAP?
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T h e N A M
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 3:25am |
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i don't think any hinoki blades can be cheap...
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aeoliah
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 3:29am |
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I believe there are some penhold single ply hinoki which are cheap (Butterfly Senkoh or Darker Speed 25), but I have not seen a cheap one in shake hand version.
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 3:41am |
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for hinoki blades,
price determines the quality of the wood...
if you're looking for CHEAP, would be better to say with ply woods...
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 5:00am |
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the nam do u play with both shake and pen hold? interesting
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T h e N A M
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 5:05am |
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yes.. i do play both shake hand and pen hold.. but i'm trying to choose one...it's so hard to pick one..
i feel like enjoying more when i'm penhold,
but also i feel like will be improve more when i'm shakehand...
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 5:13am |
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shakehand is much more versatile if u ask me, as others have said u can defend attack and do everything else, with penhold, ur pretty restricted to the fh and only relying on the fh, even ma lina dn wang hao rely heavily on the fh, but with shake, u can be 50 50 if u want to. i play 50 50, killer bh, and no one passes it to my bh, anyway, thats my 2 cents.
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aeoliah
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 5:52am |
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TheNAM, choose one that you like more, and that would be penhold. So, go penhold !
(trying hard to keep the population on penhold world) |
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T h e N A M
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 10:53am |
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yes yes yes...
i enjoy penhold lot more...
but people in China, Korea, Japan...
who had the most number of penhold players...
are swiching to shakehand...
hm... does it mean anything..? :o
i don't know.. i'll just have to choose one... soon!
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 11:58am |
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No, at least for me it does not mean anything. They should have good reason to change to shakehand, but I am enjoying penhold so I will stick to it.
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 11:58am |
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ok srry the nam for forcing my opinion on you, as ppl said just choose wat u prefer, if its penhold, so be it!
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Posted: 09/25/2007 at 12:01pm |
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