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ryanp 
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 Topic: Tackiness Drive vs TackifirePosted: 11/02/2007 at 2:53pm |
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Anybody used Tackifire rubbers from Butterfly? I want to get a new rubber for my backhand with good control but same time with decent good speed but not too fast. The best control rubber would probably be Tackiness chop but the speed is not good at all. Anybody got ideas? Thanks.
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ryanp
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Posted: 11/02/2007 at 2:58pm |
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Anybody tried Moresto or Stiga's Magna (is this a tacky rubber?) or Juic Spinspiel Ultima or 999 Elite Ultima? How about good backhand Joola rubbers with good control and speed?
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benjy55
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Posted: 11/02/2007 at 8:46pm |
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the magna is not tacky, and i use the tackifire on my forehand like it alot, i twiddle alot aswell and its very good on the backhand aswell, for my kind of game anyway.
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Posted: 11/02/2007 at 8:49pm |
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I would say Magna, Tackifire C Soft or Tackiness C II
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ryanp
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Posted: 11/03/2007 at 12:15am |
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i have the x5 balsacarbo and i play mostly close to the table. my backhand is primarily for the blocks, drives and chops - i sometimes loop in my backhand but i'm learning for more backhand looping. what would be a good backhand rubber for me? how would tackifire C fits on my x5? i'm a little confuse really... there's tackifire C and tackifire drive, then there's tackiness drive and tackiness chop (how would this fit in x5?). i thought magna is kind of tacky, i guess i'm wrong.
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firetack
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Posted: 11/03/2007 at 5:27am |
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tackiness chop aint bad when glued,still good control and speeds up nicely,the topsheet on tackifire c soft is not as soft as tackiness c.
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korearulz
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Posted: 11/03/2007 at 6:32am |
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I really like takifire D on my forehand because im a heavy looper. My Backhand is stronger than my forehand (lol) so i need a really fast rubber. i also chop my backhands really spinny. so i recomend Tango if going for spinny. OR Joola Energy.
But if ur looking for a bit more power and speed then look forward to Joola energy extra.
Back to Forehand. if you like to loop like Joo See Hyuk then y dnt u use the Takifire D? i just wan tto no how spinny u loop.
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ryanp
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Posted: 11/03/2007 at 1:50pm |
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firetack, if i put a tackiness chop on my X5 (off), would that fit my style?
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Posted: 11/03/2007 at 1:52pm |
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korearulz, at first i was really into tackiness d, how different would it be to change to tackifire d? also, have you tried joola topspin?
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Posted: 11/03/2007 at 2:16pm |
The Magna is a bit tacky, not as much as something like a H3, but still sticky. I had it on my FH (on the X5) before changing to H3. If you're interested in trying it, I have a barely used sheet cut for the X5 that I'll sell for cheap, just PM me. |
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Posted: 11/03/2007 at 3:32pm |
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tackiness c is my favourite backhand rubber,if you want chop 1.1 for more underspin if your blade is soft enough,1.3 for good underspin and slow spinny loops,stronger loops with 1.9 glued up...but not as good to chop with,joola topspin c is faster than tackiness c with a little more catapult effect,i.e 1.8 topspin faster than 1.9 tackinessc if you go for the joola rubber the topspin`c`(not topspin)is best for backhand....ok
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Posted: 11/04/2007 at 1:59am |
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Ryanp, takifire D would b abit more heabyas well. if you really want to like punch with your backhand, then i would sugest takifire D. But if you want to chop sort but spinny chops then use the takiness D. Bt it sounds like ur really playing 90-10. so therefore i recomend you takifire D. Takiness strangly has a dull feeling. but the Takifire doesnt. Anyway i heard takifire is going to b an uncomon rubber. Well it is now. So if i were u..... ill use the Takifire
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Posted: 11/04/2007 at 7:31am |
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i played with tackifire special, feels awesome on the fh, controllabe
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Posted: 11/04/2007 at 1:02pm |
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Tackire special is fantastic because it feel like a slight harder, slower Sriver L. I have it on my fh as well w/ SC. With it being slower and harder you can play a close-to-the-table game kinda like H3 but not sticky where you can't have a little more speed during counter and blocks. You do need to soften it a bit with rubber cement or speed glue.
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Posted: 11/04/2007 at 2:31pm |
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I've replaced recently my aged Nittaku Magic Carbon 1.9 with JUIC 999 Elite Ultima 1.8 on the FH side. Gained more speed and spin practically w/o sacrificing any control. It feels and sounds softer than Magic Carbon, which is also favourable to me.
Kept my Tackiness-C on the BH side for now, but really looking into replacing it with Tackifire C Soft, or at least with Tackiness-C II to gain more speed. Thinking of building a new paddle based on X5 as well. |
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Posted: 11/05/2007 at 12:25am |
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Takifire Special Soft is a very controllable rubber for opening loops, much more so than Tackiness Drive. I tried them out on the same blade and I like Special Soft better - no arguement.
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Posted: 11/05/2007 at 1:18am |
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question: wouldnt chinese rubbers be better than euro companies trying to imitate the tackiness?
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Posted: 11/05/2007 at 11:51am |
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theman -- perhaps, but you pay for in batch-to-batch inconsistency at times, and for some rubbers (tackiness chop comes to mind) the tack lasts quite a while, whereas (especially red) chinese sheets lose their stick relatively quickly.
I'll second tackifire C soft -- it's what i'm using, and it's the easiest sheet to loop BH that i've ever tried. Keep in mind that i normally play bh long pips, so i have very little experience looping off the backhand.
Compared to Tackifire Drive, it's very controllable (imo), especially comparing them in the same thickness (1.9 for me). Perhaps marginally less spinny on slow serves, slow loops, and pushes, but nearly identical on fast serves, smashes, blocks, and (to me) better spin on loop kills.
agtom -- if you haven't used tackchop 2, and are looking for 'tackchop 1 but faster', i think you'd be better served by getting a 1.7-1.9 tackdrive or a 1.9 tackifire C soft. imo, the sponge on the tackchop 2 is a little to hard to control loop consistently, and not nearly as versatile while defending / playing the short game... whereas what you're gaining is merely more speed.
personally, i felt like going from tackchop 1 (1.9mm) to tackifire C soft (also 1.9) felt much more natural then going from tackchop 1 (1.7) to tackchop 2 (also 1.7)
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Posted: 11/05/2007 at 10:03pm |
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jack87 and everyone, what do you think of tackiness chop 1.9 in x5 balsacarbo as backhand? would this fit?
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Posted: 11/05/2007 at 10:04pm |
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agtom, i've been really itching to try that 999 ultima...
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Posted: 11/05/2007 at 10:07pm |
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for all the messages i see about double happiness hurricane 3, i'm now curious what this rubber can do. years ago i never like dh because they were generally a little heavier compared to other rubbers.
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Posted: 11/05/2007 at 10:09pm |
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i'm down to tackifire c soft or tackifire drive... but i don't reglue that much. |
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Posted: 11/08/2007 at 1:29am |
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thanks all. |
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Posted: 11/08/2007 at 2:56am |
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hurricane 3, who cares about wieght?!?! ur not THAT WEIGHT sensitive r u? its not that bad rlly, its got awesome tacky, and nice loop brush drives
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