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XIOM CONTROL ALL+, Kiso Hinoki, Aramid-Carbon |
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mcd0nald 
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 Topic: XIOM CONTROL ALL+, Kiso Hinoki, Aramid-CarbonPosted: 11/21/2007 at 6:50pm |
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has any1 tried this blade?
can you please share some ideas about this blade ?
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FH: NEO H3 Prov 38 degree (BLACK) BH: XIOM Vega Asia (RED) |
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alfie
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Posted: 11/21/2007 at 10:50pm |
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this is the same blade,since everyone is calling it the ALL+ I will edit the post
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Blade Xiom Control 3/ALL+
BH Andro impuls speed FH H3 Provincial Tibhar CTE |
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hafawaz
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Posted: 11/22/2007 at 11:40am |
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I have the Xiom Amadeus All+ and the Xiom Ovid All
Both are teriffic blades... I don't think you can go wrong with any of their products. I use Sriver FX, 2.1 on both and it gives me the ability to play a controlled block and push game, but also a strong loop, mid-distance is still very fast.
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speed_king
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Posted: 11/22/2007 at 2:51pm |
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This blade is smillar to my Xiom Stradivarius. When I buy Stradi I choose between Control off- and Stradivarius. I choose Stradi because it was more expencive. I think that all blades from Xiom control series are great. This your blade Alfie is with aramid carbon, and because of that is smillar with my Stradivarius.
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dauntless
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Posted: 11/22/2007 at 3:51pm |
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I have been looking for the Holy Grail for some time.
I just ordered this blade after really researching and asking questions.
This blade, at least for my game, sounds perfect.
I ordered from affordablett.au. Rob was really helpful and even after I intended to purchase, he asked me to describes my game before saying he thought this blade would work for me.
So I will share what I wrote here:
I like to play an all around game. Topspin, but must have touch over the table, and [also a bit of] power from mid-distance ... but not from way back cause I never go there[beyond 4-6 feet]. Loops should be easy without sacrificing short game. I am intermediate level at best...still refining strokes. Blade must block well too.
Medium throw rubbers are what I am used to. I like blades around 85g Here are my concerns about Control3: not sure how hard the hinoki is, i need to have harder blade to play these softer rubbers. alfie says impuls speed is awesome (speed is not too fast so that is good) and i like softer rubbers. ( I will be using Joola Energy GP or Andro Impuls Speed --- softer)
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So this blade apparently isn't super hard, it is medium -- but harder than a lot of ALL+ because of the Hinoki and aramid carbon, control is supposed to be amazing, with power when you need it -- except from way back. I have even heard this blade approaches OFF. Mine will be lighter 82grams and I am sure it will be closer to a true ALL+ or OFF- blade. Of course this depends a lot on the rubber selection.
I will be going 2.0 at first.
Hope that helps. I am so excited about this blade. I will still EJ a little but I am hoping it will just be for finding the perfect rubbers. BTW- it is a ST version, FL is supposed to be heavier and I didn;t even consider the anatomic. I have played a Primorac ST '1995, Primorac FL '2000, Wavestone, Galaxy 896, Darker 7p-2a (all hinoki). I am hoping this blade will have the best of all those blades and more. If not I will probably go with Wavestone and try different rubbers but that is another post.
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speed_king
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Posted: 11/22/2007 at 4:10pm |
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dauntless
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Posted: 11/22/2007 at 7:21pm |
I don't think it is designed for mid-distance specifically. I think it is just a very controlled ALL+ that is actually faster than a regular ALL+ depending on the weight of the blade to a lesser degree and on how HARD you hit to a greater degree. Also, rubber choice will always change the nature of the blade, right? I chose this mainly because there are many positive reviews and because I need control, but don't want a super soft blade that has no gears. Haven't played it yet, but this is the bullseye from a specs point of view for me. Hope it lives up to the hype. |
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dauntless
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Posted: 11/22/2007 at 7:37pm |
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I have a special request:
Any one with this blade: can you take close up pics of the blade? I would also love to see a Speedy style review from a very experienced source... Sort of like this: http://extremetabletennis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=30#carboaramid If this happens, I bet you many people who have heard about this blade and are curious would be super stoked! P.S.> There already exists a post with awesome info from Alfie, who influenced my decision to choose this blade. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13845&KW=xiom |
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alfie
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Posted: 11/22/2007 at 8:22pm |
if that's what you want you have chosen the right blade,I think your maybe a bit slower than mine as it is 10 grams lighter mine is 91 or 92 grams if I remember.
I have played with perhaps 15 blades and nothing matches it
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Blade Xiom Control 3/ALL+
BH Andro impuls speed FH H3 Provincial Tibhar CTE |
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dauntless
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Posted: 11/23/2007 at 4:05am |
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Alfie: Thanks to you for all your help and PMs about this blade I am hoping this is it!
I looked around a bit and I was thinking that the Joola Cat might be close to the Xiom ALL+... I has two layers of a "epoxy resin prepreg (fabric) made of an aluminium-coated fibre" and a balsa core, not sure about outer layers. Anyone seen/played this blade and the Xiom ALL+ and had a chance to compare? |
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dauntless
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Posted: 12/08/2007 at 6:42pm |
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http://affordablett.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=81&hilit=
Those are my impressions of the blade...still getting used to it, but it is nice,
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