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    Posted: 01/04/2008 at 9:53am
What is the best blade in this categories ?
 
I can say I like Maze OFF, but it is a bit to slow
I would like to know something more about the Nittaku acoustic...
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I would say Joola K3.
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Dynamix 17 - I have one for sale.
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Originally posted by tuco tuco wrote:

Dynamix 17 - I have one for sale.
 
i second that--that IS a good blade.  i'd buy it from ya myself, but it's too heavy for me.  sorry...
 
but for those of you who can handle the weight (and the speed) i highly recommend it.  IMHO it feels like the violin/acoustic, but at a cheaper price.
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Can you please tell me how the acoustic plays ?
like feeling, vibrations, speed, stiffness ???
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Why are you looking at the acoustic if the maze is a little slow?
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Originally posted by DenHondequin DenHondequin wrote:

Can you please tell me how the acoustic plays ?
like feeling, vibrations, speed, stiffness ???
 
acoustic is the most overrated blade I have ever tried. And the handle is so tiny it might be a good blade for rich little children! Better try Petr Korbel or Avalox P700!
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P700 is a bit too fast and hard for a true looper. �The loopers I play with prefer 5-ply blades with a flexier core, otherwise the dwell time is just too low. �P700 is more for a smasher/driver.

Some blades that power loopers I know like�that are�OFF�rated�include the MMaze, the TBS, and the�KLS. �

Yea, I know a lot of people who like Butterfly.

But more use 5-plies for looping: Avalox BT550 and P500�and Stiga OC and AR.



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yeah, but you probably have big hands!!
 
whether a handle is too big or too small depends 100% on the size of the player's hands.
 
that said, i DO think the acoustic & violin are overrated.
 
the dynamix 17 and stiga's clipper (and clipper oversize) have a similar feel, though the dynamix is closer and they all are cheaper.
 
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Overrated if u treated it as an OFFENSIVE + blade.
It's most definitely OVERPRICED! But can't deny that it has that "Look at me" kinda look/appearance. The "raw-ness", "workmanship" and its "simplicity" just turns some ppl including me ON!
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Tiehwen, do you need a cigarette and a cold shower now?

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As a guitar player, I do find the craftsmanship of the Violin/Acoustic/Violincello series very impressive.
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Butterfly Kreanga Powerspin is great too!
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HS Cryzer.  Good weight.  Soft feel.  Large, comfortable handle.  Great with offensive inverted rubbers.
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joola mc1. fast, soft feel, pretty good ball feedback, comfy handle at least for me.
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Originally posted by gene gene wrote:

joola mc1. fast, soft feel, pretty good ball feedback, comfy handle at least for me.
 
I 2nd that! A great blade but it's reallllllllllllllly fast.
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the maze is not slow what rubbers were you using it with?
 
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relatively compare, maze is not as fast as some other blades, like joola kool or mc1...

yeah, change rubber may help.
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With Torpedo Soft 2.0, unglued... and it would like to keep the rubbers I'm using now.
 
Maybe the combination isn't good, I like the feeling of the Maze, but sometimes it doesn't give the speed I would like to have.
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Stiga Clipper CR WRB.  Has lots of feeling. Is good for driving and short game.
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TBS - definitely the best topspin blade I've tried

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There are only two blades fit for this position: Schlager Carbon and Joola Rosskopf Force.ClapClap

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Originally posted by gene gene wrote:

relatively compare, maze is not as fast as some other blades, like joola kool or mc1...

yeah, change rubber may help.
 
but its still not slow even in comparison to those blades
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Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Why are you looking at the acoustic if the maze is a little slow?
 
Exactly what I was thinking!  If the Maze is too slow you should really look for different rubbers rather than a different blade.  The blade speed being too slow shouldn't be a real issue.
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Originally posted by Skippy Skippy wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Why are you looking at the acoustic if the maze is a little slow?
 
Exactly what I was thinking!  If the Maze is too slow you should really look for different rubbers rather than a different blade.  The blade speed being too slow shouldn't be a real issue.
 
better try  some tensor like xiom omega if you don't glue
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Originally posted by Skippy Skippy wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Why are you looking at the acoustic if the maze is a little slow?
 
Exactly what I was thinking!  If the Maze is too slow you should really look for different rubbers rather than a different blade.  The blade speed being too slow shouldn't be a real issue.
But it did not know anything about the acoustic, that's why I asked the question here ...
 
The speed doesn't come of the rubbers, the blade is the most important for that .
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i think you got that wrong the rubber can be a factor in the speed.the bty bryce rubbers are very fast.with any blades.
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