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namari 
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 Topic: VOC Speed glue alternative pollPosted: 01/27/2008 at 8:54pm |
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I may be forgetting or not aware of other good products out there, but I just wanted to get a poll going for some good active feedback on these VOC-free, speed glue alternatives. Which do you like best? What are the specific results that you've had? In your opinion, which is the best product in terms of practicality, least trouble to apply, least time to apply, longest lasting results, unpleasant side-effects (smell etc.) I'll add to the list any that I'm forgetting if you just let me know. Thanks!
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Schlager
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Posted: 01/27/2008 at 8:56pm |
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The pressure box doesn't give any effect, it just keeps the effect in there after you have used tuning.. But if you want it up there, Joola has a pressure box too..
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namari
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Posted: 01/27/2008 at 9:04pm |
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I just realized that I can't edit this poll to add new items, so I guess we'll just have to make do with what's there. Please feel free to add other products in your comments though. Joola's Tuning Box is a valid addition although Schlager makes a good point that the pressure boxes are just for maintaining the tuning. Do they work with the other booster products mentioned here or are they only worthwhile with certain specialized rubbers?
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Posted: 01/27/2008 at 9:21pm |
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Please add Dr.Neubauer Booster also.
The review on Dr.Neubauer Pressure Box can be read at http://www.tabletennisnetwork.com/Game/Blog/tabid/67/EntryID/24/Default.aspx |
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Posted: 01/27/2008 at 9:29pm |
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What about BTY Speed Optimizer 1.
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namari
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Posted: 01/27/2008 at 9:32pm |
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liXiao, BTY is the third option on the poll list. FYI.
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liXiao
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Posted: 01/27/2008 at 9:36pm |
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Whoops, missed it
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TTfan
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Posted: 01/28/2008 at 5:00am |
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Falco booster, greatest softening, great glue effect, lasts for over 3 weeks, easy to apply.
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Posted: 01/28/2008 at 5:15am |
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Stiga Aqua energy glue + Synergy Tech technology for Stiga rubbers = Unstoppable combination
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PLLsystem
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Posted: 01/28/2008 at 10:07am |
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I have 2 rackets with BryceFX on them. One is speed glued the other one is treated by Speed Optimizer1 three layers.
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Schlager
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Posted: 01/28/2008 at 10:21am |
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Could you give us a review of the differences?
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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
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namari
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Posted: 01/28/2008 at 10:46am |
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I personally really like Ecolo Expander II. The problem I have with it is that when the effect wears off (about 4 weeks) there's no easy way to just to reapply the Expander and get the effect back for another few weeks. Am I wrong? Is there an easy way to retune without scraping off the glue and starting over? What about with the other products listed in the poll?
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PLLsystem
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Posted: 01/28/2008 at 10:51am |
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lasts 10 days to 2 weeks in three layers
1st day too soft, then becomes sharper
makes the sponge slower rebuild than speedglue so a bit lazy feeling
sounds as speedglue, fast as speedglue, a bit lacks of spin (apx: 5%)
(I use old Alser 1970 blades, 5.4mm thickness, 163�154mm head)
Tried on G2 and Bryce. Well, not so effective. I am convinced that it works with FX sponges
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Posted: 01/29/2008 at 10:10am |
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Posted: 01/29/2008 at 11:35am |
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Speed Optimizer is excellent imo
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Posted: 01/30/2008 at 6:14am |
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Falco booster! Softens the sponge as much as normal speedglue, awesome for harder sponged rubbers!
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Posted: 01/30/2008 at 6:22am |
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dont u hav the nittaku speed accelerator in the poll???
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namari
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Posted: 01/30/2008 at 8:31am |
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I hadn't heard of Nittaku's Speed Accelerator. Do you use it? What are your impressions of it?
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Posted: 01/30/2008 at 9:40am |
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cte
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mizutani jun
tenergy bryce speed fx Will be trying Zeta soon |
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Posted: 01/30/2008 at 6:10pm |
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Not on the list? E oil isn't too bad.
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Posted: 01/31/2008 at 1:12am |
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I suspect most voters would not have tried more than one booster/tuner, since they've only been around for a short while, so the results might be more of an indication of what people have used (and were happy with), not which is better....
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namari
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Posted: 01/31/2008 at 9:37am |
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This is a good point haggisv. Really though, the goal of this poll is threefold:
#1. determine what most players are using and why, #2. find out if they like the results and, #3. gather information on a wide variety of products to help us all decide what's best for "me". Thanks to all for their feed back so far! CTE seems to be winning in terms of popularity at this point. |
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Posted: 01/31/2008 at 8:04pm |
It's a good poll, and it's certainly done that, but it was worth pointing out I thought. I only compared the CTE to Falco Booster side by side on a medium hard chinese rubber and a hard sponged chinese rubber. I feel the falco booster is better if need need more sponge softening, but if not the CTE seems just as good. it obviously depends a lot on the rubber and waht effect you need persoanlly.
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Posted: 02/01/2008 at 8:17am |
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That's great information to know about Falco Booster compared to CTE, especially for those who favor harder sponges. Thanks for that specific feedback haggisv!
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Posted: 02/01/2008 at 10:34am |
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Where can I buy Tibhar Clean Tuning Extra in the US?
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Posted: 02/01/2008 at 10:37am |
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You can get it here: http://www.paddlepalace.com/prodinfo.asp?number=GTCTE
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Posted: 02/01/2008 at 11:37am |
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You should try the new Stiga Booster
 Pretty good stuff imho. I voted for it because it has the strongest performance if you apply it both to the sponge and the topsheet. I had 4 layers on the sponge and 2 on the topsheet. Very nice  CTE has my second vote. The effect is good. Good spin, but a bit too fast imho. The big advantage of CTE is that the effect lasts 4 weeks. 99% of all players will be happy with one of the new tensor rubbers like Donic Persson Gold, JO Silver, Nimbus etc. If you want better performance (spin) and don't like the hassle of tuning every other day I'd go for CTE. If you want maximum performance and you don't mind a bit of work, I'd go for the Stiga Extreme Booster. |
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Posted: 02/01/2008 at 1:29pm |
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DONIC Power Boost is available at www.ping-pong.com, for people in Canada and the US.
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Have you tried the Donic Power Boost, ppmax? If so, what's it like? How does it compare to some of the other products here? |
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Posted: 02/01/2008 at 2:14pm |
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namari,
No. I just ordered it along with other stuff but won't touch it right away. I still have some CTE to last me another month. |
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