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Originally posted by jpenlover jpenlover wrote:

Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

How long did your Energy last?

I have used it for about 3 months, playing 2-3 times at the club each week. It still works OK.


What percentage of its full capability would you say it is at now?
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Bump for alpali.
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Bryce Speed

I initially placed the rubber on my "Sardius" blade, but find it a little hard to control. I removed the rubber from that blade and placed it on my "Bolltricarbon" blade, and I find it easier to control the rubber. The rubber is very fast, and it is meant for far table play. A very good rubber for attacking play. However, it is pretty hard to play short and mid distance with this rubber, which is why I put "Tackifire Special" on the backhand of the blade for that.
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Originally posted by grubbafan grubbafan wrote:

Bryce Speed

and it is meant for far table play.


Originally posted by grubbafan grubbafan wrote:

Bryce Speed

However, it is pretty hard to play short and mid distance with this rubber.

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Hmmm....anything wrong with my comments? 
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I'm just confused, you say it is meant for far table play, but it is hard to play mid distance, so do you mean it should be played with beyond 4 ft. from the table or so?
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Oh....actually, I meant the shots will be towards the end of the table. It is hard to place the ball close to the net, or playing the ball at the middle point of the table. I tend to use my backhand rubber for my close shots.
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What the difference between the Joola Green Power and the Joola Energy Extra?
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Same topsheet - different sponges. EGP is 42.5 deg. and Xtra is 37.5 deg.

EGP a bit faster - Xtra spinnier and louder.
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Originally posted by GraemeW GraemeW wrote:

Same topsheet - different sponges. EGP is 42.5 deg. and Xtra is 37.5 deg.

EGP a bit faster - Xtra spinnier and louder.
 
energy extra is very spinny indeed.
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Excellent! thanks for the info. I'm curious to try the energy extras now!
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If someone can clarify something for me, I would be VERY grateful.

Sriver G2 FX - does this fall into "speed glue effect" category?  I see people talking about gluing it, but wonder if gluing is necessary, how does it play out of the package?

Another random question, how is durability of energy extra, are we talking the fragility of EGP, andro plasma etc?

Thanks!
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One more question, answer and become my personal hero - energy extra vs. impulse speed, can someone give a brief compare and contrast?  Extra extra bonus if you relate it to F3.

Thanks so much.
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Can't comment on Impuls Speed or F3!

But I can say that Xtra is fairly durable for a tensor. The secret to preserving tensors is... Edge Tape! Good quality, 12mm edge tape, which is wide enough for most blades and 2 MAX rubbers. We spend lots of money on lovely new rubbers and then don't spend just a little bit more to look after them! The dings and nicks generally come from contact with table and edge tape usually prevents that.

For what it's worth, here's the review of Energy Xtra I recently posted on DTTW.

" I have been using JOOLA Energy Xtra MAX exclusively this season and so have quite a bit of experience with it.

It's quick and very spinny, especially for opening loops at the table. Despite the speed it retains decent control over the table - enough for it not to be a liability. The rubber excels in the short to mid distance looping game and the soft sponge gives enough dwell time for large amounts of mechanical spin to be generated. It still performs well far back but you need to give it a bit of oomph - having said that, unless you're playing with a fast carbon blade and heavily glued rubbers then you're always going to have to do that.

Durability has not been an issue so far - average life span has been about 4 months of heavy use (2/3/4 days per week), though I tend to put new ones on my forehand every 2 months and switch the used one to my backhand for another 2 months. As people have commented above, Energy Xtra is also fairly loud!

In conclusion, i would say that Energy Xtra has somewhere in the region of 50-60% of a full-on 'wet' glue job, but that is sufficient for my needs. The payback is in consistency from session to session, match to match - something I have also found in the 4 or 5 sheets I have used... no 'duds' yet!"
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Originally posted by chronos chronos wrote:

If someone can clarify something for me, I would be VERY grateful.

Sriver G2 FX - does this fall into "speed glue effect" category?  I see people talking about gluing it, but wonder if gluing is necessary, how does it play out of the package?

Another random question, how is durability of energy extra, are we talking the fragility of EGP, andro plasma etc?

Thanks!
 
sriver g2 fx does not have a build in speed glue effect. It's better to speedglue/tune it.
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While there's all the hype for tenergy, I am looking to try out either Sinus regular or Andro Roxon, I found some shops in europe(germany)but shipping is so high...basically for 1 sinus and 1 roxon, with shipping it came to 85Euros ~ 135US Dollars in this site, http://contra.de/
Do any of you know when paddle-palace might carry sinus, i emailed them long time ago but no response. Any other shops, especially for us here in US?
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Originally posted by everest81 everest81 wrote:

While there's all the hype for tenergy, I am looking to try out either Sinus regular or Andro Roxon, I found some shops in europe(germany)but shipping is so high...basically for 1 sinus and 1 roxon, with shipping it came to 85Euros ~ 135US Dollars in this site, http://contra.de/
Do any of you know when paddle-palace might carry sinus, i emailed them long time ago but no response. Any other shops, especially for us here in US?

On the same token though, if anyone(FROM US) is interested in these two or the tenergy(38euros), do let me know, if i have 3/4 rubbers to order then per/rubber will be cheaper, both discountwise and shipping wise.
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Where did you end up buying the Sinus? Could you write up a quick review of it? Thanks in advance.
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I'm also in a EJing testing process at the mmnt. As a Donic's fan, I couldn't resist to the new JO gold/silver and JP sonex gold.

In order to make it short, I would say that Gold (comming from F1) feels harder, not necessarly faster, better for blocks, drives and smashes. On acoustic, which is medium stiff, found it much more difficult to loop with. I had to switch it to Korbel (softer, more flexible blade) to give it it's full potential. There it's very good, but to be honest, there's nothing I can do with Gold that I can't do as well with F1. To me, not worth the extra money.

JO silver is another story. Clearly softer than F1. Level fast close the table. Missing some power mid and long distance. Throw angle is medium/low and ark is...long. On acoustic I had difficulties cause it was too soft compared to what I was used to. Switched it to Clipper, and there it was much better. Better than F1 on clipper I mean. Softness is balanced by wood stiffness. Very juicy on BH, for skillfull/advanced players only. I sticked F2 max on FH. Alltogether, a deadly combo. Love it !
 
JP gold ! the last but not the least ! My prefered one. It's faster than the two others (IMO). It's a tad softer than F1 and a hair harder than silver. Ark and throw angle is medium (not flat as silver). Very powerfull at all distances but surprisingly fairly controllable. A looper sheet no doubt, but levelly good at everything. It's a clear upgrade compared to F1. Loud sound, speed glue effect close to 90% (IMO again...). Marries wonderfully with acoustic. Medium + Medium = The great medium (khvn would say).
 
I still have to work on it and do some adjustments but JP gold takes the lead.
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