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    Posted: 06/05/2008 at 3:07am

To Hurricane 3 rubber lovers,

Can you please give your opinion about these two rubbers?LOL
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no comments!!!!

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Hahaha. I think that's rossicarbon's way of tell you to do a search first.
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blue sponge is very nice, it's softer and more elastic than the orange commercial sponge.
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There is this guy (Paul Chao) who coaching at Homebush and he was telling my friend that he got this national version from CHINA cost $200USD!!!!... he said this was  given to him by cai zhen hua and he mentioned there are 3 types  national versions!!  so funny..hehehehe

The funny part part is that he doesn't know my friend who used for played for Hk  and   knows the HK and CHINA national coaching staff!!!!...
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Wow thats really cool, and what are the three versions?
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i don't even think it makes any sense...200USD per sheet!!!!

When i used to get the h3 national version, it was the same stuff as what chen qi, wang hao , li chin .. were using.
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sigh,....so many versions and all of them are so misleading....Dead
 
gotta try blue sponge Hurricane 3 with new set up later on I guess....
worth of try ....
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there's only 3 versions, market, prov and nat. It is depends on who you get it from. The national version that my friend got from Peter Wang( Want Tao's bother) is very hard and heavy, the versions i got from HK is soft and firmer.

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Wow, now presports got some national, and they say its real, but I'm skeptical.
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How much is it?
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$32.00 American for National
$23.04 American for Provincial
$12.80 American for Comercial
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the status is sold out... which i believe is long ago and they didn't get new batches
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There is so much talk about how very limited the provincial rubbers are. There was even some talk that they get a batch of 100 sheets and sell just few. However every single person has some for sale. Every website that deals in some way with tt equipment has tons of them. So the math doesent add for me. I think all this provincial rubber hype is just bs. Someone is mass producing these rubbers for the market and the best way to sell them is to say they are very limited and noone can have them. Lets sell them for 3x the price and someone will eventualy buy it. Thats my 5 cent.
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i kinda agree with your agreement.
since Hurricane 3 rubber sells fast nowadays, i am afraid they just mass produce them, and mostly what they call with prov. or commercial are identical
the difference might come from the stamp and the package....
"hey, i can sell these rubbers with stamp and save up cost for packaging
then why not" LOLLOL
 
Originally posted by EvolutionTTC EvolutionTTC wrote:

There is so much talk about how very limited the provincial rubbers are. There was even some talk that they get a batch of 100 sheets and sell just few. However every single person has some for sale. Every website that deals in some way with tt equipment has tons of them. So the math doesent add for me. I think all this provincial rubber hype is just bs. Someone is mass producing these rubbers for the market and the best way to sell them is to say they are very limited and noone can have them. Lets sell them for 3x the price and someone will eventualy buy it. Thats my 5 cent.
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Like Cole_e has said to me before, it's just the same topsheet with a different sponge.  The blue sponges i've noticed tend to run on the harder side but react well with tuners/glues, the orange "provincial" versions are a bit softer and actually work well without glue, and the commercial versions have a rock hard sponge on them, not too fond of those.  It was a genius marketing ploy because if you say it's the stuff the chinese national team uses, then of course everyone is going to want to buy them since China overall has the most successful program.  I am going to stop using the CTE since that's being banned so I'm switching to the provincial version because it's sofer and plays well without glue, but overall there is a bit too much hype about these different versions.
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so curious about the sponge that all pro chinese players use....
whether they have hard sponge, soft sponge, medium hard sponge or what ....
seems only WLQ use hard sponge.....
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A lot of pros use really hard sponges because they can put 10 pounds of glue on the sponge and make it highly reactive, ie generating a lot of speed and spin. 
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As far as I know,
 
the blue sponge National H3 is for formal matches only since the lift of Blue sponge is shorter.  Orange sponge National H3 is for training.
 
Blue sponge H3 doesn't mean National H3 since it's too easy for coaches or staff of DHS to make fake ones. A real Blue/Orange sponge Natioanl H3 should be greater than $60 is US. Otherwise definitely it's fake.
 
The quality control of DHS is so poor that there are some people in china whose jobs are making fake Provincial/National rubbers and protend to be relative of some coach or whatever. over 80% of national H3 and 50% Provincial H3 in the market are fake!
 
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over 80% and over 50% wow. Can you provide a link or credible source for these numbers? or is it just anecdotal.
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you're right most ppl tend s to say like that. These days h3 or skyline national version is not worth it anyway...LOLLOLLOL  but then i m more interest in those new rubbers that used for internal and tendering for HK team.
 
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Difficulty with h3 blue.

I feel that the ball keeps sinking into the net, i had to adjust my stroke to this rubber. Do you guys put a lot of glue on this?

It seems that h3 blue plays very differently than h3 orange (com), as in counter strokes seems like i need to open up my racket more just to get the ball over the net.


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Originally posted by wxc2006 wxc2006 wrote:

As far as I know,
 
the blue sponge National H3 is for formal matches only since the lift of Blue sponge is shorter.  Orange sponge National H3 is for training.
 
Blue sponge H3 doesn't mean National H3 since it's too easy for coaches or staff of DHS to make fake ones. A real Blue/Orange sponge Natioanl H3 should be greater than $60 is US. Otherwise definitely it's fake.
 
The quality control of DHS is so poor that there are some people in china whose jobs are making fake Provincial/National rubbers and protend to be relative of some coach or whatever. over 80% of national H3 and 50% Provincial H3 in the market are fake!
 
 
I find this to be a very correct statement, ive bubbled 2 sheets of blue sponge h3 in the past month or sos my friend has also both of us well over 2100 US so it shouldnt bother most people but I can see how professionals could kill a sheet in a day or two. Ive never had the problem with orange sponge provicial or commerical hurricane.
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