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Kajj 
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 Topic: Sriver EL vs. MagnaPosted: 06/13/2008 at 2:23pm |
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Has anyone outhere played w these rubbers, Sriver EL and Magna, please give some advices. How is one compared to the other (FH play: serves, loops, smash...etc). Thanks.
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 2:48pm |
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Magna is more logical for FH and so is EL for BH. Magna has a tacky topsheet (not as much as say Hurricanes). Great rubber when glued. Fast, very very spinny, loud. Not glued; it's decent just as Sriver EL. Sriver has a grippy top and a bit slower.
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 2:53pm |
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I played with both of them. Very similar except that Magna is a bit tacky. After the tackiness is gone, they are almost the same. Sriver EL is more consistent from piece to piece. Magna is a bit more spinny and faster.
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 3:01pm |
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I think Magna is a bit harder and heavier...
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 3:15pm |
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My impressions:
- Magna is much faster
- About same soft (I've heard Magna is inconsistent but my sheets were identical)
- Magna is noticeably spinnier
- Magna has lower throw
- EL has more control
- Both were ~40g cut
Both are great rubbers I would recommend to a looper, especially for backhand of a med to hard blade.
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asr1990
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 4:19pm |
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Magna is alot lighter than EL and the hardness is about the same
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 4:28pm |
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My bad... I confused it with another rubber I had once. It is indeed lighter - I wouldn't say a lot but certainly lighter than EL. |
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asr1990
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 4:42pm |
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its quite a light rubber because it uses that ACS sponge which is apparaently 10% lighter than conventional sponges, not quite sure though |
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 5:08pm |
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Are the above comments for glued or not?
Astually in the process of looking for a replacement for BH Sriver EL for a looper. Not using glue and looking for improvement in spin and speed, hopefully also lighter rubber and not increase in price. Any other suggestions?
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 5:13pm |
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I liked Magna better.
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 5:26pm |
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i also preferred magna,
spinnier and i found it great for driving and especially great when in relooping rallies away from the table
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Posted: 06/13/2008 at 6:21pm |
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Magna will play well even unglued.
My comparison does not change when both are glued or both unglued, however IMHO gluing Sriver EL gives little bit more advantage than gluing Magna (so the difference becomes narrower if you glue them).
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Posted: 06/16/2008 at 9:18pm |
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It depends on these:
1) speed glue (use or not); 2) blade speed and hardness; 3) sponge thickness I played with EL and Magna in 1.9, 2.1 and MAX on different blades. Also I use speed glue. Magna is OK without glue too - as many said. In general I'd avoid MAX for both of them, Magna is still OK in MAX. EL/max is too soft/mushy regardless of blade. The thicker sponge - the softer it feels for both. 2.1/2.0 is best for them. Magna is better on dynamic blade with some vibration (Samsonov Alpha), EL is better on stiffer blades (Keyshot light). By the way, FX could be even better choice than EL with (or without) glue on relatively fast blade. EL is kind of "average" in all aspects... |
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Posted: 06/17/2008 at 1:50pm |
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Thanks everyone. Your inputs are greatly appreciated. I'm using El now, and want to try something faster and spinnier. It looks like Magna is the one that everybody recommended. Order is on the way. Thanks again.
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:35am |
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Without the use of speed glue the Magna is mush better than the el,
it's slightly faster and is more spinnier,
el would be better too use on the bh,
lacks power without glue on the fh
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 9:31am |
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I've played against a looper who is using Magna. Magna has good power while looping.
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 3:50pm |
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the only disadvantage of magna is it's durability
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 3:51pm |
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i agree other than its durability in my opinion its the best rubber i have tried
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:19pm |
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Is it that I'm lucky to get 3 sheets of Magna which lasts almost 8 months each? The first one I used on FH, the last two on BH. I also use speed glue.
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:19pm |
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that's impossible
I used my sheet for 3 months without glue. And in the 3th month it was DEAD! And I take good care of my rubbers.
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:23pm |
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the topsheet lasts a long time, thats if you take care of it.
Sponge dies faster the El, turns to mush, when glued |
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:25pm |
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both topsheet and sponge didn't last long
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:25pm |
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Seem like Im Tom Cruise then. 123.
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:32pm |
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i used to change sheets every 3weeks to a month
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:33pm |
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i got them stupidly cheap of course as i am part sponsored so i get big discounts
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:36pm |
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Posted: 06/18/2008 at 4:39pm |
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yeh but i am currently switching to tibhar or donic soon, not as big discount but they have better rubbers for the glue ban
but i use a bty blade, ignore my signature its not been updated for a while
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