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Originally posted by Asaomi Asaomi wrote:

I keep on reading everywhere that its tacky like for instance Hurricane. is this true or not?



According to varghesep, its lightly tacky, so no way near as tacky as Hurricane.
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Is it tackier than a nimbus/sinus/tenergy/... ?
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The ZETA is not tacky like H3 but less tacky and highly grippy. The magic is that you feel great tackiness because there is some kind of grabbing happens like a tacky rubber when the rubber comes in contact with the ball. You can spin like regular tacky rubber through its top sheet at the same time a lot of mechanical spin can be generated through hard contact.

Omega III is the sr version of ZETA and True Innovation. However Omega III is grippy and for active top spin game. You will be on your toe with Omega III. If you are a "brusher" Omega III is the right choice.

I gave ZETA to a friend who could not loop for a while with his old rubber. He is back into looping now with ZETA - creates problem for me with his looping. I could not successfully return his pushes until now. His level has improved, and now he is going to get Omega III.






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O3 sr version of ZETA?
what does it means?
are u saying that if i got the chance of buy one of both ....O3 is a better choice?...
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I meant Senior Version. More top spin possibilities with Omega III than ZETA or TRUE INNOVATION.
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mmm....i see..
is the o3 to bouncy ?
does it have good control ?
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Omega III jumps fast from the table because of the top spin. They are hard to return unless the player is good at countering top spin.

On the first day, you may feel little crazy in your mind because of its speed. It may take at least day to have complete control. It is like someone giving you a NASCAR in the track and asking you to drive. After you drive for a while in the track, you are the king. It has excellent control at soft impact and hard impact. The touch shots are beautiful.



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Originally posted by varghesep varghesep wrote:

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Omega III jumps fast from the table because of the top spin. They are hard to return unless the player is good at countering top spin.On the first day, you may feel little crazy in your mind because of its speed. It may take at least day to have complete control. It is like someone giving you a NASCAR in the track and asking you to drive. After you drive for a while in the track, you are the king. It has excellent control at soft impact and hard impact. The touch shots are beautiful.


wow..sounds like the solution to september!, i play with a TBS, what do u think if i put to O3 on it?..good combo?
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Originally posted by varghesep varghesep wrote:

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Omega III jumps fast from the table because of the top spin. They are hard to return unless the player is good at countering top spin.On the first day, you may feel little crazy in your mind because of its speed. It may take at least day to have complete control. It is like someone giving you a NASCAR in the track and asking you to drive. After you drive for a while in the track, you are the king. It has excellent control at soft impact and hard impact. The touch shots are beautiful.


wow..sounds like the solution to september!, i play with a TBS, what do u think if i put two O3 on it?..good combo?
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A good combination would be power rubber like ZETA, Omega II, TSP Real or JOOLA Express 1. This is for an offensive player who wants a variety of shots from the back hand.

You can have Omega III on the other side too if you can loop with back hand.

With Omega series like I, II or III, you have to have an active top spin game. This is not something for a passive blocker for example.



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If I want combination between Zeta & Omega 3 bios for my blade setup, which one is the most suitable for FH & BH?
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I suggest Omega III for the forehand and ZETA for the backhand. Why not? Twiddle the paddle and play with Zeta on your forehand in between the points.

The pictures of Omega III and ZETA are on the XIOM USA site http://www.TableTennisStore.us or http://www.xiomtabletennisusa.com

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TheNam, how's the zeta? Any difference between max and 2.0?
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I'm actually most interested in Zeta vs Tenergy.

Spin? Hardness? Weight? comparisons would be excellent! ^^
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I'm sure it's softer than Tenergy by a margin as all tensors. I wonder how good is the topsheet (by means of creating spin). We know Tensors mostly depend on sponge and tension for spin but I don't like that much. If Zeta is simliar to Magna or Tackifire series for the topsheet, I might try it immediately. 
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ZIOM has both tensors and BIOS. The top sheet is grippy. You can generate spin with its top sheet - thats where I'm little surprised.


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Originally posted by dragon kid dragon kid wrote:

How does Zeta plays The NAM.. (Serve&Receive, Short play, and loop?)
Would you consider yourself making it your primary rubber? Or have you play with something better?
 
i've tried little more than 10 different tensor rubbers...
 
revolution fire, plasma 430, plasma 470, nimbus, narucross ex hard, soft,
omega1, omega2, macro, zeta... plus bryce speed, speed fx...
 
for me, i think zeta plays better than any other rubbers without speed glue...
 
Serve: i like it a lot... i can generate really heavy spins...
 
receive: zeta is fast rubber, but it's not too crazy bouncy like other tensor rubbers... i can control better with zeta...
 
loop: it's my favorite part... it generates so much spin... i just love it.
a lot of people i play with, they are amazed with spins on my loop...
 
one of my friend is using photino with bryce speed,
but he was generating more spins and speed with my zeta and korbel...
 
 
it is my primary rubber already...
after my first purchase... i bought another 4 sheets rubbers...
 
then i gave a sheet to my friend who lives in Korea...
 
i'll probably order more sheets when it's available...
cause it is out of stock right now... :D
 
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Originally posted by rokphish rokphish wrote:

TheNam, how's the zeta? Any difference between max and 2.0?
 
i'm not sure... i didn't actually tried to switch around...
 
i'm using max on my forehand and 2.0 on my backhand...
 
it's just becuse i can't get max black...
 
i would love to play max on both side...LOL
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Originally posted by yorsh82 yorsh82 wrote:

Originally posted by varghesep varghesep wrote:

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Omega III jumps fast from the table because of the top spin. They are hard to return unless the player is good at countering top spin.On the first day, you may feel little crazy in your mind because of its speed. It may take at least day to have complete control. It is like someone giving you a NASCAR in the track and asking you to drive. After you drive for a while in the track, you are the king. It has excellent control at soft impact and hard impact. The touch shots are beautiful.


wow..sounds like the solution to september!, i play with a TBS, what do u think if i put two O3 on it?..good combo?
 
have you tried any tensor rubbers with TBS?
 
cause i heard a lot of people saying TBS don't play well with tensor rubbers...
 
it has weird feelings....
 
if you liked any of tensor rubbers, i would try it...
 
but if not.... i wouldn't play tensor on TBS...
 
bryce speed should be good....
 
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Originally posted by qidsign qidsign wrote:

If I want combination between Zeta & Omega 3 bios for my blade setup, which one is the most suitable for FH & BH?
 
cause you are playing h3 on forehand and sriver el on backhand...
 
i'd try zeta on forehand then o3 on backhand...
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote varghesep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/19/2008 at 8:34am
Good review. I think what makes ZETA different is the BIOS.

Have you liked the click sound?

I have said in one thread before. This is an amazing looping + hitting rubber.
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@the NAM, not, i have never played with tensor rubbers....y play with 729 Godfavored FH, and sriver g2 fx BH,...so....isnt a good idea to get Z's for the timo ?
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The XIOM ZETA can go with any blade. I have been using with TSP Balsa Plus 3.5 DEF+ blade, and it is great on any blade.
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Originally posted by yorsh82 yorsh82 wrote:

@the NAM, not, i have never played with tensor rubbers....y play with 729 Godfavored FH, and sriver g2 fx BH,...so....isnt a good idea to get Z's for the timo ?
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if i were you...
 
i'll just buy another blade....
 
 
or keep use sriver or bryce, bryce speed.... family...:D
 
 
but it is still good idea to see how it plays on you.... tbs with tensor...
 
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@the NAM, how does the fuga play? im interested in the blade as xiom claims it has high flex but low vibration. can you confirm this? because i plan to get a zeta, and am also looking for a new blade. im curious about the control and response, and how it kicks off the blade. sorry for the threadsteal ^-^
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sorry, i don't have fuga YET....

i was going to order one from Korea, but found out tabletennisstore.us will have it on stock in 2-3 weeks...
 
i'm currently using butterfly korbel and i doubt if fuga will work better than korbel..
 
cause korbel with zeta is so good....
 
but i'm going to get it anways....
 
i'll let you how it plays... :D
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Mr.Cermet, try to compare hardness od Omega III Asian version with Sriver L , please. thanx
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