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addoydude 
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I'm curious about how much other people's double-sided penhold bats weigh. Mine is 145g (Violin R-H, Inspirit Quattro 2.0, and Juic 999 Elite Ultima 2.0).
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silvalis
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Posted: 06/20/2008 at 8:12am |
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170g.
Acoustic (82), H3BS 2.2 and roxon 450 2.3 |
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addoydude
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Posted: 06/20/2008 at 8:50am |
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You RPB with a 170g racket? You have an Acoustic penhold? |
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Posted: 06/20/2008 at 9:00am |
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nah
It's a FL blade. Balances it out for RPB. My other bat is a Hurricane Classic No.1 cpen (82g too), H2BS 2.2 and Mark V 30 max. This one is around 180g. I use a 92g TBS and a 88g Mizutani every now and again. |
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silvalis
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Don't forget that a cpen setup means you grip the blade further down the face, rather than a jpen where you're hanging on by the cork.
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fattchoi
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Posted: 06/20/2008 at 9:09am |
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My Violin P-H with Tenergy on both sides = 162g My Darker JSpeed 90 with FH Bryce Powersponge 2.1mm and BH Andro Revolution = 158gCheers.
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Wow, I thought Tenergy is a quite heavy rubber, so I'm really surprised that your racket weighs only 162 g. What sponge thicknesses are you using for that?
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in fact both tenergy and bryce are heavy rubbers!
Fattchoi must have light blades
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my setup
http://www.mytabletennis.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=18907 Blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive (YEO Chinese Penhold) Forehand rubber: DHS Skyline TG2 2.2mm Black Backhand rubber: Butterfly Sriver FX 2.1mm Red Overall weight is around 157g |
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My YEO + Globe 999 + Dawei Inspirit weighs ~170 g I'd guess
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YEO(80g) + Narucross EX Soft (MAX) + Andro Plasma 470 (MAX) = 165gr
YEO(80g) + Hurricane 3 (2.2) + Andro Plasma 470 (MAX) = 180gr
Margaux (88) + Narucross EX Hard (MAX) + Bryce Speed (MAX) = 171gr
Margaux (88) + Narucross EX Hard (MAX) + Narucross EX Soft (MAX)= 181gr i'm using first set up...
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Titanium 5.4 + F1 on both sides = 160
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172 = 83g strad + tenergy 2.1 and JO Platin 2.0
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Darker 7p2a 7t Cpen, H3 blue sponge 38 deg, Sriver FX 2.1 = 163.2gm
Darker 7p2a 05 Cpen, H3 blue sponge 36 deg, Sriver FX 2.1 = 163.5gm
Stiga Clipper CR Cpen, H2 blue sponge 36 deg, Sriver FX 2.1 = 170.1gm
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Posted: 06/20/2008 at 6:12pm |
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Too heavy! That's my RPB weight. When will they make lightweight covers?
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Yes, the Tenergy 05 2.1mm comes in at 45g per piece. My Violin P-H is only 72g. So all up is 162g. I did ask for the lightest availiable blade when I ordered from iruiru
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Hercules, what is that white thing on the top of your handles? |
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Posted: 06/21/2008 at 12:28am |
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200g, the extra weight is more forgiving on mish*ts.
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F1 Actor 10g at 3 and 9 10g at 12 20g at the end of handle |
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my set up is 191g. i'm a pure RPB-player with no penhold blocks.
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Posted: 06/21/2008 at 1:39am |
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and all along I thought my setup is too heavy with the Quattro...
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lighter blades are much more demanding to use in my opinion - need to have such good footwork and technical play to get the power from them. heavy blades are also way easier to flip, drive, and counter-loop. you can also generate much heavier spin from your RPB if you use a 'heavy' setup (my previous setup was 196g). i would suggest one to go for the heaviest setup that you can manage while without going so far as to risk a wrist injury.
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Posted: 06/21/2008 at 1:47am |
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But single-sided penhold players whose blades must be in the 130g average never had any issues with lacking power. Kim Taek Soo, Ryu Seung Min, Yoshida Kali, etc..
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chen qi used to change his energy wood every month because of the power drives and flex he gets from his blade - do you think players like the most of us will have the footwork of professionals, so as to be able to generate that much power (and to wear out a blade so quickly)? all 3 players you listed above have racket covering on one side only. kim and ryu also uses kiso hinoki blades which plays differently (flight trajectory, responsiveness, and touch, are all different to 5-ply and 7-ply blades). you cant compare these setups with blades DESIGNED for 2 side rubbers. c.f. ma lin's set up wont be light - he uses 94-95g blades, 42 degrees TG2, and bryce - that should comfortably exceed 195g. neither would wang hao's be light either - i dont know the weight of his blade but again 42 degrees TG3 and 45 degrees custom sriver - sounds like another 190g+ to me too. |
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Posted: 06/21/2008 at 11:53am |
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KLS Cpen = 82
Bryce Speed FX = 42
Xtend (back) = 41
total = 165
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Actually, as it turns out, in my own experiment, the one sided lighter bat produces more powerful and faster smash. I experimented with the Bryce FX 2.1mm Powersponge on my Nittaku Rorin 10.5mm which weighs 95g, giving a total of 135g. The smash from this combination is deadly. I then peel off that rubber and is now on my Darker Jpen Reversible which is 8.5mm thick. This setup with 2 rubbers is heavier but it does not produce as much power as the rorin. I have been wondering since because I always believed that heavier setup produces more powerful smash.
My theory is I get more powerful smash with the rorin is simply because of the thicker blade??? AND because it is lighter, allows me to swing the bat much faster??? Because of my injured shoulder, I certainly am looking to lighten my rpb setup by at least 10g by changing one rubber. All I need is to find another lighter rubber that can perform like the Tenergy. I am waiting on metalone's review on the Omega 3 as compared to Tenergy. The O3 is certainly very light rubber.
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Posted: 06/21/2008 at 9:38pm |
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At one time I had 802-40 2.2 on my forehand. That was really light because of the pips and still at the same time quite fast.
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dude, I was actually looking at the pimple rubber but I am only going to resort to the darkside as a last resort
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Soon to be setup
Nittaku Septear 71grams
FH - DHS Hurricane 3 Blue sponge
BH - Dawei Inspirit Quattro
Total Weight= Appx 162 grams
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Blade: Nittaku Septear Cpen
FH: DHS H3 Provincial 2.2 BH: Dawei Inspirit Quattro 2.2 |
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when i played to some juniors of the sichuan team i noticed that both of them played with ma lin carbon and h3+hammond, but one of them was penholder and his raquet was heavier than the shakehand, anyway was really heavy guess whith that kind of training you can get used to it quikly
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Jpens were never designed to handle two rubbers. The way the index finger hooks around the cork means that changing the blade angle is impossible. So your back fingers must be digging into the blade to maintain a similar tension along your hand. Thus putting an extra rubber on the back reduces the leverage you get with the Jpen by reducing the angle the back fingers form with the index finger.
Cpens dont have this problem. However, the grip for a two-sided penholder is modified. I like to widen the gap between my thumb and index finger to put more pressure on the thumb. Wang Hao does this by lifting his index finger and relaxing it next to the handle. Both achieve the same goal, which is to facilitate the changing of blade angle. You push the thumb down to open up the blade on the backhand side for the reverse backhand. But release the pressure to your index finger for your forehands, this forms the exact same hand structure that a Jpen player has all the time. |
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