Alex Table Tennis - MyTableTennis.NET Homepage
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Member of Acoustic and Violin Clan
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Forum Home Forum Home > Equipment > Equipment

Member of Acoustic and Violin Clan

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 29>
Author
Vlad0 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 04/20/2014
Location: Bulgaria
Status: Offline
Points: 114
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vlad0 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Member of Acoustic and Violin Clan
    Posted: 12/01/2016 at 7:28am
Recently i decided to try my old love - 75 gr. Violin how good is with the new balls. I put a spare Rasant (actualy i play with Rasant since then, cause it was the best mach i found with a Violin for me) on it and wow... so good that i started to bother my mind , what was the reason to put it off? Maybe it wasn't so good before. Maybe i have to leave my TBS and return back to it ? .... And i bought myselve Viscaria for Christmas to find are there any differences with a TBS. Damn EJ LOL
TBS 86gr. ST
Rasant max
Back to Top
masterbuten View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/29/2006
Location: Philippines
Status: Offline
Points: 132
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote masterbuten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/30/2016 at 9:17pm
Thanks for the suggestion peter79! Unfortunately I don't think it is available on pingpongonline.com where I mostly get my stuff here in the Philippines.
Stiga OC CR
FH DHS TG2
BH DHS TG3
Back to Top
peter79 View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/05/2006
Location: Indonesia
Status: Offline
Points: 3292
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peter79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/28/2016 at 1:14am
Originally posted by masterbuten masterbuten wrote:

Just got back to TT and after a long hiatus broke out my trusty black tag violin. Attached the Vega Pro (fh) and Vega Elite (bh) which from reviews seem to be good rubbers but seem dead in combination with the Violin especially with the 40+ balls.

What rubbers would pair well with the Violin these days? I might also consider Chinese rubbers.


Try Nittaku Fast Arc G1
Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2
Baracuda Max
182 Gr

Back to Top
masterbuten View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/29/2006
Location: Philippines
Status: Offline
Points: 132
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote masterbuten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/27/2016 at 10:02pm
Just got back to TT and after a long hiatus broke out my trusty black tag violin. Attached the Vega Pro (fh) and Vega Elite (bh) which from reviews seem to be good rubbers but seem dead in combination with the Violin especially with the 40+ balls.

What rubbers would pair well with the Violin these days? I might also consider Chinese rubbers.
Stiga OC CR
FH DHS TG2
BH DHS TG3
Back to Top
Ladon1997 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/08/2016
Location: Lansing Square
Status: Offline
Points: 278
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ladon1997 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/11/2016 at 10:38am
Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Originally posted by Ladon1997 Ladon1997 wrote:

My answer is NO . Customer made one is only modified in shape and weight you want to be , the strength and hardness can also be modified according to the thickness of the wood when you place an order. The basic can't be changed material . Set you conotion and Nittaku will finalize your blade suit you personally.


I see, I've tried Custom Viscaria vs normal Viscaria. My Custom Viscaria is 87 gr vs Normal Viscaria 90 gr.
The lighter Custom blade feels more solid than my normal Viscaria.
Also Hurricane Long V vs W968, W968 has harder feel and more powerful.
So Nittaku normal and custom blade use the same material then.



The way of Nittaku provide customer made is more preferential to Buuterfly . At least they are not greedy
Back to Top
peter79 View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/05/2006
Location: Indonesia
Status: Offline
Points: 3292
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peter79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/11/2016 at 1:10am






Finally I can get a good top ply, similar to first generation Acoustic Big smile


Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2
Baracuda Max
182 Gr

Back to Top
peter79 View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/05/2006
Location: Indonesia
Status: Offline
Points: 3292
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peter79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/11/2016 at 12:27am
Originally posted by Ladon1997 Ladon1997 wrote:

My answer is NO . Customer made one is only modified in shape and weight you want to be , the strength and hardness can also be modified according to the thickness of the wood when you place an order. The basic can't be changed material . Set you conotion and Nittaku will finalize your blade suit you personally.


I see, I've tried Custom Viscaria vs normal Viscaria. My Custom Viscaria is 87 gr vs Normal Viscaria 90 gr.
The lighter Custom blade feels more solid than my normal Viscaria.
Also Hurricane Long V vs W968, W968 has harder feel and more powerful.
So Nittaku normal and custom blade use the same material then.

Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2
Baracuda Max
182 Gr

Back to Top
Ladon1997 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/08/2016
Location: Lansing Square
Status: Offline
Points: 278
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ladon1997 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/10/2016 at 11:13am
My answer is NO . Customer made one is only modified in shape and weight you want to be , the strength and hardness can also be modified according to the thickness of the wood when you place an order. The basic can't be changed material . Set you conotion and Nittaku will finalize your blade suit you personally.
Back to Top
peter79 View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/05/2006
Location: Indonesia
Status: Offline
Points: 3292
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peter79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/10/2016 at 1:25am
Originally posted by Ladon1997 Ladon1997 wrote:

On the right is custom made , the blade shape is modified to fit for looping and spin. Blade's Centre of gravity moves upwards to ease of control


Ladon, I just wonder if the quality of the commercial Acoustic vs Custom made Acoustic, is the Custom made Acoustic feels more solid, harder and more powerful than the commercial Acoustic?
Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2
Baracuda Max
182 Gr

Back to Top
Ladon1997 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/08/2016
Location: Lansing Square
Status: Offline
Points: 278
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ladon1997 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/09/2016 at 8:45pm
On the right is custom made , the blade shape is modified to fit for looping and spin. Blade's Centre of gravity moves upwards to ease of control
Back to Top
Ladon1997 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/08/2016
Location: Lansing Square
Status: Offline
Points: 278
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ladon1997 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/09/2016 at 8:41pm
Back to Top
Ladon1997 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/08/2016
Location: Lansing Square
Status: Offline
Points: 278
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ladon1997 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/09/2016 at 5:58pm
I can qualify as I have custom made Acoustic Carbon Cp
Back to Top
peter79 View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/05/2006
Location: Indonesia
Status: Offline
Points: 3292
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote peter79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/09/2016 at 7:40am
Originally posted by Knuckle Ball Knuckle Ball wrote:

I own and play with an Acoustic Carbon. Do I qualify as clan member?


Sure you qualify Big smile . I haven't update the list of members and their blades for a long time.

Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2
Baracuda Max
182 Gr

Back to Top
Knuckle Ball View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/26/2012
Location: Philippines
Status: Offline
Points: 152
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Knuckle Ball Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/09/2016 at 4:02am
Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Just curious to know which is more popular, Acoustic or Violin in this Forum. Anyone who own either of them or both of them can join this Clan Wink
I own and play with an Acoustic Carbon. Do I qualify as clan member?
Blade: Acoustic Carbon
FH: T05 (black)
BH: Moristo DF (red)
Back to Top
peter79 View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/05/2006
Location: Indonesia
Status: Offline
Points: 3292
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peter79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/08/2016 at 6:26am
I got 1 pcs Acoustic 92 gw which is solid and powerful at kokusai takkyu takanobaba branch. I requested 2 pcs 92 gr from ttjapan and I got 2 pcs 93 gr instead. So solid, so powerful, Acoustic current generation is different with the old model. I prefer the new version now. Probably because of the plastic ball, they change the material.





Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2
Baracuda Max
182 Gr

Back to Top
jonyer1980 View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/30/2008
Location: Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 1213
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jonyer1980 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/08/2016 at 1:38am
Older FL versions were narrower handle or slimmmer at at the middle of the handle. I don't know if inner carbon acoustics have the same handle.
Rosewood NCT V 86 gr Master

Thibar MX-P MAX FH

Traction 2 Red BH



Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices
Back to Top
Ladon1997 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/08/2016
Location: Lansing Square
Status: Offline
Points: 278
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ladon1997 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/08/2016 at 12:14am
Do you know Niitaku can custom made Acoustic Blade ?
Back to Top
Snakefish View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 12/09/2009
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 767
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snakefish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/07/2016 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

I trade my Violin ST old tag for a brand new acoustic FL handle. Looks like new regular FL handles are much better than older version so definitely has been corrected and there's no reason to go for L-size version. I'm also planning to go back to Acoustic since i have got a wrist injury and my RWV feels quite heavy with MXP



How is the Accoustic new regular FL handle different/better than the older version ?

 
Donic Waldner Senso Carbon, fl
FH: Rakza7 max
BH: Xiom OmegaV Pro 2.0

Butterfly TB ALC fl
FH: Tenergy 05 2.1
BH: Tenergy 05FX 2.1
Back to Top
jonyer1980 View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/30/2008
Location: Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 1213
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jonyer1980 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/07/2016 at 5:48pm
I trade my Violin ST old tag for a brand new acoustic FL handle. Looks like new regular FL handles are much better than older version so definitely has been corrected and there's no reason to go for L-size version. I'm also planning to go back to Acoustic since i have got a wrist injury and my RWV feels quite heavy with MXP
Rosewood NCT V 86 gr Master

Thibar MX-P MAX FH

Traction 2 Red BH



Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices
Back to Top
player87 View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 04/04/2011
Status: Offline
Points: 98
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote player87 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/19/2016 at 12:08pm
Originally posted by big d big d wrote:

Well sorry for  replying so late. I finally got a chance to hit with the acoustic with h3 and tg3 on both sides. both rubbers were boosted. The combination was fast enough and had good control. The best thing about the setup was that it had superb spin. I was playing against a decent mid pip guy and he was blocking balls off the table regularly. Your biggest problem was about head heaviness and i got bad news for u.The entire setup weighs about 190g. So my suggestion to u would be too have a chinese rubber on only one side. and something softer like donic coppa on the other. the combination would be fairly light,spinny and most of all won't stretch your wallet too much.
Good Luck,
Dan

Thanks for your advise. Currently I playing with Evo MXP and Vega Europe and experiencing head heaviness. I assume h3 or tenergy is also heavy like mxp and I will face the same problem.

I tried for 5 minutes m.maze off with 2xt05 and I didn't feel like it heavy however it was approximately around 190 as well.
Back to Top
big d View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 02/02/2009
Location: Nj, usa
Status: Offline
Points: 428
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote big d Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/19/2016 at 1:40am
Well sorry for  replying so late. I finally got a chance to hit with the acoustic with h3 and tg3 on both sides. both rubbers were boosted. The combination was fast enough and had good control. The best thing about the setup was that it had superb spin. I was playing against a decent mid pip guy and he was blocking balls off the table regularly. Your biggest problem was about head heaviness and i got bad news for u.The entire setup weighs about 190g. So my suggestion to u would be too have a chinese rubber on only one side. and something softer like donic coppa on the other. the combination would be fairly light,spinny and most of all won't stretch your wallet too much.
Good Luck,
Dan
emerald vps v
t05s
Back to Top
player87 View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 04/04/2011
Status: Offline
Points: 98
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote player87 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/18/2016 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by cgswss cgswss wrote:

I can only give you my experince with the  Violin.  The best forehand rubber I have used on it is T25 FX.  I feel it likes softer sponge rubbers, but I am only about a 1500 player
If you want information on how soft/hard rubbers are, you can check out the Paddle Palace web site.  If you look at rubbers then click on the little icon for "chart view", there is a column that lists sponge hardness.  This is the easiest place to find a value assigned to the hardness


I see however my initial problem is head heaviness. Tenergies are quite heavy and I am afraid to face the same situation as with my current setup.
Back to Top
notfound123 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/18/2008
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 487
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote notfound123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/17/2016 at 1:43pm
Originally posted by player87 player87 wrote:


I am trying to give last chance to Acoustic. Can you advise light weight rubber that suits acoustic. For FH Mid - mid hard rubber for looping and for BH hardness medium - medium soft rubber for drives, flics and ocasional top spins.

 thank you in advance.

In short, Tenergy 05 and 64. The former is harder and spinnier and the latter is softer, faster, and spinwise very close.  T64 is lighter of the two  - you could try T64 2.1 on FH and say T64 1.9 on BH. Or a more common combo would be 05 on the FH and 64 on the BH.
Victas Koji Matsushita Off
T05 | Curl P-1R
Back to Top
cgswss View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: 04/29/2015
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 82
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cgswss Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/17/2016 at 1:14pm
I can only give you my experince with the  Violin.  The best forehand rubber I have used on it is T25 FX.  I feel it likes softer sponge rubbers, but I am only about a 1500 player
If you want information on how soft/hard rubbers are, you can check out the Paddle Palace web site.  If you look at rubbers then click on the little icon for "chart view", there is a column that lists sponge hardness.  This is the easiest place to find a value assigned to the hardness
Ratt "ghost" (OS kiri, balsa, kiri) innova UL/ Tibhar Grass D.tecs
Ratt "mouse" (mahogany, 3- kiri, mahogany) T05/ giant dragon talon
Tibhar Furious/ juic 999/ Tibhar Grass D.Tecs
Ross Leidy custom
Back to Top
player87 View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 04/04/2011
Status: Offline
Points: 98
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote player87 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/17/2016 at 6:46am
What kind of rubbers will suit if alc for close to the table playing style (1-2 zone)

Is it big difference between IF layer alc and IF alc ?

I am trying to give last chance to Acoustic. Can you advise light weight rubber that suits acoustic. For FH Mid - mid hard rubber for looping and for BH hardness medium - medium soft rubber for drives, flics and ocasional top spins.

 thank you in advance.
Back to Top
big d View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 02/02/2009
Location: Nj, usa
Status: Offline
Points: 428
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote big d Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/16/2016 at 8:53am
Originally posted by player87 player87 wrote:

I have regular Acoustic 87 grams FL. Really struggling with head heaviness with evo mxp and vega europe. It is very difficult for me to play using my wrist. I start thinking of changing my blade but want to give it last chance by changing the rubbers.
Vega Europe is already very light rubber. MXP is heavy one. So if I change it to let say Joola Maxx P will it become more comfortable?

Btw planning to change and thinking of
BTY Innerforce AL/ALC
BTY TB ALC

DHS H Long 3

What would you recomend to solve the issue with Head heaviness. Class off, off-.
Want ot pair new blade with Bluefire M2 and Xiom Vega DF.




Innerforce layer alc can solve the problem of head heaviness. My blade with tenergies is about 175g.
Feels very light and balanced. My usual setup is about 200g so I m thinking about making my alc my primary blade.
emerald vps v
t05s
Back to Top
fatt View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 07/15/2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Status: Offline
Points: 13233
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fatt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/16/2016 at 8:35am
Shouldn't violoncello/vioncello added to the title?
stuff fs ( •_•)O¯`·.¸.·´¯`°Q(•_•) feedback
Back to Top
big d View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member
Avatar

Joined: 02/02/2009
Location: Nj, usa
Status: Offline
Points: 428
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote big d Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/16/2016 at 7:14am
Originally posted by GSOM_GSOM11 GSOM_GSOM11 wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen!
What are  the clan members using on BH on standard Acoustic (non-carbon, non-penhold)?

Give some feedback plz...
I m going to try h3neo and tg3 neo on it today. will tell u how it goes
Both boosted with two layers of falco
emerald vps v
t05s
Back to Top
igorigor View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 06/24/2009
Location: Slovenia
Status: Offline
Points: 56
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote igorigor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/16/2016 at 5:38am
Originally posted by player87 player87 wrote:

I have regular Acoustic 87 grams FL. Really struggling with head heaviness with evo mxp and vega europe. It is very difficult for me to play using my wrist. I start thinking of changing my blade but want to give it last chance by changing the rubbers.
Vega Europe is already very light rubber. MXP is heavy one. So if I change it to let say Joola Maxx P will it become more comfortable?

Btw planning to change and thinking of
BTY Innerforce AL/ALC
BTY TB ALC
DHS H Long 3

What would you recomend to solve the issue with Head heaviness. Class off, off-.
Want ot pair new blade with Bluefire M2 and Xiom Vega DF.

Add weight to the handle
Back to Top
player87 View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 04/04/2011
Status: Offline
Points: 98
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote player87 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/16/2016 at 5:31am
I have regular Acoustic 87 grams FL. Really struggling with head heaviness with evo mxp and vega europe. It is very difficult for me to play using my wrist. I start thinking of changing my blade but want to give it last chance by changing the rubbers.
Vega Europe is already very light rubber. MXP is heavy one. So if I change it to let say Joola Maxx P will it become more comfortable?

Btw planning to change and thinking of
BTY Innerforce AL/ALC
BTY TB ALC
DHS H Long 3

What would you recomend to solve the issue with Head heaviness. Class off, off-.
Want ot pair new blade with Bluefire M2 and Xiom Vega DF.

Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 29>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.250 seconds.
Mark all posts as read :: Delete cookies set by this forum

Cookies and JavaScript must be enabled on your web browser in order to use this forum


Copyright © 2003-2013 MyTableTennis.NET - All Rights Reserved. Disclaimer