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    Posted: 06/19/2016 at 12:08pm
Originally posted by big d big d wrote:

Well sorry for  replying so late. I finally got a chance to hit with the acoustic with h3 and tg3 on both sides. both rubbers were boosted. The combination was fast enough and had good control. The best thing about the setup was that it had superb spin. I was playing against a decent mid pip guy and he was blocking balls off the table regularly. Your biggest problem was about head heaviness and i got bad news for u.The entire setup weighs about 190g. So my suggestion to u would be too have a chinese rubber on only one side. and something softer like donic coppa on the other. the combination would be fairly light,spinny and most of all won't stretch your wallet too much.
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Thanks for your advise. Currently I playing with Evo MXP and Vega Europe and experiencing head heaviness. I assume h3 or tenergy is also heavy like mxp and I will face the same problem.

I tried for 5 minutes m.maze off with 2xt05 and I didn't feel like it heavy however it was approximately around 190 as well.
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Well sorry for  replying so late. I finally got a chance to hit with the acoustic with h3 and tg3 on both sides. both rubbers were boosted. The combination was fast enough and had good control. The best thing about the setup was that it had superb spin. I was playing against a decent mid pip guy and he was blocking balls off the table regularly. Your biggest problem was about head heaviness and i got bad news for u.The entire setup weighs about 190g. So my suggestion to u would be too have a chinese rubber on only one side. and something softer like donic coppa on the other. the combination would be fairly light,spinny and most of all won't stretch your wallet too much.
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Originally posted by cgswss cgswss wrote:

I can only give you my experince with the  Violin.  The best forehand rubber I have used on it is T25 FX.  I feel it likes softer sponge rubbers, but I am only about a 1500 player
If you want information on how soft/hard rubbers are, you can check out the Paddle Palace web site.  If you look at rubbers then click on the little icon for "chart view", there is a column that lists sponge hardness.  This is the easiest place to find a value assigned to the hardness


I see however my initial problem is head heaviness. Tenergies are quite heavy and I am afraid to face the same situation as with my current setup.
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Originally posted by player87 player87 wrote:


I am trying to give last chance to Acoustic. Can you advise light weight rubber that suits acoustic. For FH Mid - mid hard rubber for looping and for BH hardness medium - medium soft rubber for drives, flics and ocasional top spins.

 thank you in advance.

In short, Tenergy 05 and 64. The former is harder and spinnier and the latter is softer, faster, and spinwise very close.  T64 is lighter of the two  - you could try T64 2.1 on FH and say T64 1.9 on BH. Or a more common combo would be 05 on the FH and 64 on the BH.
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I can only give you my experince with the  Violin.  The best forehand rubber I have used on it is T25 FX.  I feel it likes softer sponge rubbers, but I am only about a 1500 player
If you want information on how soft/hard rubbers are, you can check out the Paddle Palace web site.  If you look at rubbers then click on the little icon for "chart view", there is a column that lists sponge hardness.  This is the easiest place to find a value assigned to the hardness
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What kind of rubbers will suit if alc for close to the table playing style (1-2 zone)

Is it big difference between IF layer alc and IF alc ?

I am trying to give last chance to Acoustic. Can you advise light weight rubber that suits acoustic. For FH Mid - mid hard rubber for looping and for BH hardness medium - medium soft rubber for drives, flics and ocasional top spins.

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Originally posted by player87 player87 wrote:

I have regular Acoustic 87 grams FL. Really struggling with head heaviness with evo mxp and vega europe. It is very difficult for me to play using my wrist. I start thinking of changing my blade but want to give it last chance by changing the rubbers.
Vega Europe is already very light rubber. MXP is heavy one. So if I change it to let say Joola Maxx P will it become more comfortable?

Btw planning to change and thinking of
BTY Innerforce AL/ALC
BTY TB ALC

DHS H Long 3

What would you recomend to solve the issue with Head heaviness. Class off, off-.
Want ot pair new blade with Bluefire M2 and Xiom Vega DF.




Innerforce layer alc can solve the problem of head heaviness. My blade with tenergies is about 175g.
Feels very light and balanced. My usual setup is about 200g so I m thinking about making my alc my primary blade.
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Originally posted by GSOM_GSOM11 GSOM_GSOM11 wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen!
What are  the clan members using on BH on standard Acoustic (non-carbon, non-penhold)?

Give some feedback plz...
I m going to try h3neo and tg3 neo on it today. will tell u how it goes
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Originally posted by player87 player87 wrote:

I have regular Acoustic 87 grams FL. Really struggling with head heaviness with evo mxp and vega europe. It is very difficult for me to play using my wrist. I start thinking of changing my blade but want to give it last chance by changing the rubbers.
Vega Europe is already very light rubber. MXP is heavy one. So if I change it to let say Joola Maxx P will it become more comfortable?

Btw planning to change and thinking of
BTY Innerforce AL/ALC
BTY TB ALC
DHS H Long 3

What would you recomend to solve the issue with Head heaviness. Class off, off-.
Want ot pair new blade with Bluefire M2 and Xiom Vega DF.

Add weight to the handle
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I have regular Acoustic 87 grams FL. Really struggling with head heaviness with evo mxp and vega europe. It is very difficult for me to play using my wrist. I start thinking of changing my blade but want to give it last chance by changing the rubbers.
Vega Europe is already very light rubber. MXP is heavy one. So if I change it to let say Joola Maxx P will it become more comfortable?

Btw planning to change and thinking of
BTY Innerforce AL/ALC
BTY TB ALC
DHS H Long 3

What would you recomend to solve the issue with Head heaviness. Class off, off-.
Want ot pair new blade with Bluefire M2 and Xiom Vega DF.

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Hi, I am looking for nittaku violin FL L handle. If anyone has one for sell, pls pm me
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Thanks a lot... But Tenergy is too pricey for playing outdoors. Skyline-60 is a better option, Im gonna try it.

Anyone else???

Edited by GSOM_GSOM11 - 06/09/2016 at 10:27am
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Originally posted by GSOM_GSOM11 GSOM_GSOM11 wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen!
What are  the clan members using on BH on standard Acoustic (non-carbon, non-penhold)?

Give some feedback plz...


You may try Tenergy 80 if you like Tenergy series.
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Ladies and gentlemen!
What are  the clan members using on BH on standard Acoustic (non-carbon, non-penhold)?

Give some feedback plz...
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Just aquired 2 Accoustic Fl-L and really like them.  I have over the course of several years downgraded from some of the fastest blades (ie,Bty Boll Tricarbon, Galaxy T-1, TB ZLC, Bty MJ etc..) to seven ply clipper to now using 5 ply accoustic.  I have a Violin but I just hate the handle to much to even give it much of a chance.  I will probably end up selling it and maybe getting a Violin Fl-L and trying it.  I am a two-wing looper and have been trying to adjust my game to encompass more countering on the table and this is where the accoustic seems to shine for me.
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Originally posted by tjafsaren tjafsaren wrote:

Just recieved my Violin (L handle ST, 87g) and my Nano Spin II's from TT11. Must say that the blade in itself looks awesome, but I was let down by the not so well made lens, as it's not an even surface so I'll most likely have to either switch sides or sand/grip it.. :(

+1 , i have had 2 of my Large Handle violins from (Nexy only) had similar issues especially relevant to the handles where both of them were not glued properly or possibly glue drying out and the handle started shaking there by i had to remove the handle and glue it on clamp again .

In your case easiest solution would be is to mark the lens area/circumference and shape a wood to fit inside it - its one of the easiest solution.
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imperfect lens ? it is improper for such high priced blade. Can you post a picture ? Thanks
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Just recieved my Violin (L handle ST, 87g) and my Nano Spin II's from TT11. Must say that the blade in itself looks awesome, but I was let down by the not so well made lens, as it's not an even surface so I'll most likely have to either switch sides or sand/grip it.. :(
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Hi, I´m new owner of Acoustic - FL, 77 gr . I´m impressed, I didn´t expect such good performance from 5-ply wood blade. After testing over 60 different blades this is a big surprise. It has little bit flex, huge amount of dwell, very good speed and control.Perfect looping blade, great blocking. It´s true that grip is a little bit small, but never mind. First attempt with rubbers wasn´t so succesfull, Victas stiff 2.0mm and baracuda 1.8mm was a little bit dead combination. Another setup with Victas Limber 2.0 both sides was really excellent. Just now very satisfied with Coppa X1 gold max fh and Acuda S2 2.0 bh. It´s probably true I´m going to change my signature for several days

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I think I will not sell acoustic and violin but if you want I still have two new hurricane hao 656 that I'd like to sell  Wink


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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

my impression is that we will soon see two of these beauties offered for sale... :)


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I will book it first. LoL
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

my impression is that we will soon see two of these beauties offered for sale... :)

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my impression is that we will soon see two of these beauties offered for sale... :)
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Originally posted by carmelomaf carmelomaf wrote:

carmelomaf: 2x acoustic L handle, 2x violin L handle cooming soon


Big smile What a good start for collecting one of the best feel and user friendly blade.


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carmelomaf: 2x acoustic L handle, 2x violin L handle cooming soon


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As a current user of Acoustic and former user of Violín, all I can say he's 100% right. Im also planning about downgrading to Violin with BF M1 and some ESN bouncy of 05fx on my Bh. I also use to hesitate if its worthy that extra power with acoustic sacrifying that sweet accuracy at short game or blocking.

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