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GSOM_GSOM11
Super Member Joined: 07/09/2010 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 296 |
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Ladies and gentlemen!
What are the clan members using on BH on standard Acoustic (non-carbon, non-penhold)? Give some feedback plz...
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peter79
Premier Member Joined: 07/05/2006 Location: Indonesia Status: Offline Points: 3393 |
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You may try Tenergy 80 if you like Tenergy series. If you like Chinese rubber TG3 #60 sponge or H3-50 |
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
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GSOM_GSOM11
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Thanks a lot... But Tenergy is too pricey for playing outdoors. Skyline-60 is a better option, Im gonna try it.
Anyone else??? Edited by GSOM_GSOM11 - 06/09/2016 at 10:27am |
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Vrael
Member Joined: 12/16/2014 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 48 |
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Hi, I am looking for nittaku violin FL L handle. If anyone has one for sell, pls pm me
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player87
Super Member Joined: 04/04/2011 Status: Offline Points: 183 |
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I have regular Acoustic 87 grams FL. Really struggling with head heaviness with evo mxp and vega europe. It is very difficult for me to play using my wrist. I start thinking of changing my blade but want to give it last chance by changing the rubbers.
Vega Europe is already very light rubber. MXP is heavy one. So if I change it to let say Joola Maxx P will it become more comfortable? Btw planning to change and thinking of BTY Innerforce AL/ALC BTY TB ALC DHS H Long 3 What would you recomend to solve the issue with Head heaviness. Class off, off-. Want ot pair new blade with Bluefire M2 and Xiom Vega DF. |
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igorigor
Super Member Joined: 06/24/2009 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 117 |
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Add weight to the handle
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big d
Super Member Joined: 02/02/2009 Location: Nj, usa Status: Offline Points: 493 |
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I m going to try h3neo and tg3 neo on it today. will tell u how it goes Both boosted with two layers of falco
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petr korbel
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big d
Super Member Joined: 02/02/2009 Location: Nj, usa Status: Offline Points: 493 |
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Innerforce layer alc can solve the problem of head heaviness. My blade with tenergies is about 175g. Feels very light and balanced. My usual setup is about 200g so I m thinking about making my alc my primary blade. |
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petr korbel
fh t05 bh nexy karis m |
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player87
Super Member Joined: 04/04/2011 Status: Offline Points: 183 |
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What kind of rubbers will suit if alc for close to the table playing style (1-2 zone)
Is it big difference between IF layer alc and IF alc ? I am trying to give last chance to Acoustic. Can you advise light weight rubber that suits acoustic. For FH Mid - mid hard rubber for looping and for BH hardness medium - medium soft rubber for drives, flics and ocasional top spins. thank you in advance. |
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cgswss
Member Joined: 04/29/2015 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 81 |
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I can only give you my experince with the Violin. The best forehand rubber I have used on it is T25 FX. I feel it likes softer sponge rubbers, but I am only about a 1500 player
If you want information on how soft/hard rubbers are, you can check out the Paddle Palace web site. If you look at rubbers then click on the little icon for "chart view", there is a column that lists sponge hardness. This is the easiest place to find a value assigned to the hardness
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Ratt "ghost" (OS kiri, balsa, kiri) innova UL/ Tibhar Grass D.tecs
Ratt "mouse" (mahogany, 3- kiri, mahogany) T05/ giant dragon talon Tibhar Furious/ juic 999/ Tibhar Grass D.Tecs Ross Leidy custom |
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notfound123
Gold Member Joined: 01/18/2008 Location: MD, USA Status: Offline Points: 1025 |
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In short, Tenergy 05 and 64. The former is harder and spinnier and the latter is softer, faster, and spinwise very close. T64 is lighter of the two - you could try T64 2.1 on FH and say T64 1.9 on BH. Or a more common combo would be 05 on the FH and 64 on the BH.
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player87
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I see however my initial problem is head heaviness. Tenergies are quite heavy and I am afraid to face the same situation as with my current setup. |
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big d
Super Member Joined: 02/02/2009 Location: Nj, usa Status: Offline Points: 493 |
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Well sorry for replying so late. I finally got a chance to hit with the acoustic with h3 and tg3 on both sides. both rubbers were boosted. The combination was fast enough and had good control. The best thing about the setup was that it had superb spin. I was playing against a decent mid pip guy and he was blocking balls off the table regularly. Your biggest problem was about head heaviness and i got bad news for u.The entire setup weighs about 190g. So my suggestion to u would be too have a chinese rubber on only one side. and something softer like donic coppa on the other. the combination would be fairly light,spinny and most of all won't stretch your wallet too much.
Good Luck, Dan
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petr korbel
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player87
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Thanks for your advise. Currently I playing with Evo MXP and Vega Europe and experiencing head heaviness. I assume h3 or tenergy is also heavy like mxp and I will face the same problem. I tried for 5 minutes m.maze off with 2xt05 and I didn't feel like it heavy however it was approximately around 190 as well. |
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jonyer1980
Gold Member Joined: 07/30/2008 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 1600 |
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I trade my Violin ST old tag for a brand new acoustic FL handle. Looks like new regular FL handles are much better than older version so definitely has been corrected and there's no reason to go for L-size version. I'm also planning to go back to Acoustic since i have got a wrist injury and my RWV feels quite heavy with MXP
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Rosewood V FL
Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
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Snakefish
Silver Member Joined: 12/09/2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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How is the Accoustic new regular FL handle different/better than the older version ? |
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Andro Treiber Z - fl
FH: Tibhar MX-D max BH: Tibhar Quantum ProX-blue,max |
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Ladon1997
Super Member Joined: 05/08/2016 Location: Lansing Square Status: Offline Points: 278 |
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Do you know Niitaku can custom made Acoustic Blade ?
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jonyer1980
Gold Member Joined: 07/30/2008 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 1600 |
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Older FL versions were narrower handle or slimmmer at at the middle of the handle. I don't know if inner carbon acoustics have the same handle.
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Rosewood V FL
Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
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peter79
Premier Member Joined: 07/05/2006 Location: Indonesia Status: Offline Points: 3393 |
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I got 1 pcs Acoustic 92 gw which is solid and powerful at kokusai takkyu takanobaba branch. I requested 2 pcs 92 gr from ttjapan and I got 2 pcs 93 gr instead. So solid, so powerful, Acoustic current generation is different with the old model. I prefer the new version now. Probably because of the plastic ball, they change the material.
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
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Knuckle Ball
Super Member Joined: 05/26/2012 Location: Philippines Status: Offline Points: 245 |
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I own and play with an Acoustic Carbon. Do I qualify as clan member?
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Blade: Rosewood NCT V
FH: Dignics 05 Black BH: Moristo SP Red |
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peter79
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Sure you qualify . I haven't update the list of members and their blades for a long time. |
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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Ladon1997
Super Member Joined: 05/08/2016 Location: Lansing Square Status: Offline Points: 278 |
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I can qualify as I have custom made Acoustic Carbon Cp
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Ladon1997
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Ladon1997
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On the right is custom made , the blade shape is modified to fit for looping and spin. Blade's Centre of gravity moves upwards to ease of control
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peter79
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Ladon, I just wonder if the quality of the commercial Acoustic vs Custom made Acoustic, is the Custom made Acoustic feels more solid, harder and more powerful than the commercial Acoustic? |
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
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Ladon1997
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My answer is NO . Customer made one is only modified in shape and weight you want to be , the strength and hardness can also be modified according to the thickness of the wood when you place an order. The basic can't be changed material . Set you conotion and Nittaku will finalize your blade suit you personally.
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peter79
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I see, I've tried Custom Viscaria vs normal Viscaria. My Custom Viscaria is 87 gr vs Normal Viscaria 90 gr. The lighter Custom blade feels more solid than my normal Viscaria. Also Hurricane Long V vs W968, W968 has harder feel and more powerful. So Nittaku normal and custom blade use the same material then. |
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
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peter79
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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
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Ladon1997
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The way of Nittaku provide customer made is more preferential to Buuterfly . At least they are not greedy |
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masterbuten
Super Member Joined: 01/29/2006 Location: Philippines Status: Offline Points: 132 |
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Just got back to TT and after a long hiatus broke out my trusty black tag violin. Attached the Vega Pro (fh) and Vega Elite (bh) which from reviews seem to be good rubbers but seem dead in combination with the Violin especially with the 40+ balls.
What rubbers would pair well with the Violin these days? I might also consider Chinese rubbers.
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Stiga OC CR
FH DHS TG2 BH DHS TG3 |
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