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Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by T  h  e  N  A M T h e N A M wrote:

i've heard from someone who had chance to visit Japan and test Tenergy 25,



he said tenergy 25 was for defensive players... choppers...
 

 


I doubt that since its such a limited market, and tenergy has been in the works for about if not more than a decade.


You really think they were working on Spring Sponge for a decade?
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Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

You really think they were working on Spring Sponge for a decade?


I'm not surprised... Just marketing terms...
They've been working on sponge for decades... Then happened to stumbled on the Spring sponge. Of course you could count the decades before as ground work... Tongue

Just like when one said our company has worth of 25 years (or whatever amount of years) of experience.. What they mean is the amount of work experience of the workers summed up together.... In which case, one could get a lot of workers with few months of experience and sum it up to a big number... Or just get one very old guy.... TongueTongueTongue
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It really is true that they have been working on it for a decade, started right after they made high tension.
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How do you know?
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Put it on there official website.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cmetsbeltran15 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/21/2008 at 11:34am
They also put speed, spin, and control ratings on their website
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote liXiao Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/21/2008 at 11:37am
Why won't you believe that they have been working on it for a decade, tenergy 05 was announced a long time ago you know.
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it was announced only a year ago?

I'm a very big fan of bty's products, but you have to be pretty gullible to fall for their marketing ploys.
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Exactly dalamchops
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I heard about tenergy before a year ago though. But what would it matter if it was made last year or ten years ago, it kicks every post glue era rubbers ass.
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you "heard" about it?

I don't disagree about the rubber itself. it's worth every cent of $56
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worked on it for a decade....yeah right. No possible way. That's all marketing hype, and it's obviously fooling some people:)

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Originally posted by charlesj charlesj wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Yea stiga is deff better than butterfly. Thats why ALL the pros use stiga.


It appears that more use BTY from the equipments thread
 
The pros choose their equipement not because the quality of the product
but they go where do they have contract.
 
Bty invests too much for the contracts of players and coaches.
This is the main reason why Bty products are more expencive than other products.
 
I know that too many, you are big Bty fans (me also). It's reasonable, Bty rubbers have extremly good quality. Especialy the older series like Sriver are the best on the planet.
But now we are talking about new technology products. There the Bty products are also very god. But i don't like to hear myths about 10 years preparation of Tenergy. These myths offends indelligence.
10 years preparation for Tenergy ?????
I say that Boost TC has bigger spin and speed capabilities than Tenergy and Bryce speed. If you doubt that search and find one sheet and give it a try. One of the worster things in the world is prejudice and the lack of will for reaserch . One of the aims of this forum is The help of  research.
All i want is to give a motivation to discover Boost TC.
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bottum line is that your gonna still buy from them. and if you dont then o well. have fun
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I think the formula of making Tensor rubber is not secret anymore. Every manufacture will release large amount Tensor rubbers to instead of classic rubbers in near future. It means the classic rubber will be terminated soon. The tensor rubbers got higher speed and elastic power, they had already changed TT playing tempo in competition.
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I think BTY should be commended because this ISN'T a tensor, but its basically better than all of them.
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I'd say bty should be commended for their marketing department....
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^Thats how the business works. The way companies fail is either bad management, or bad advertising, and BTY has been in the game this long, and there is a reason why. And there is a reason why almost all the players in the top ten use bty. Ryu Seung Min may play with XIOM, but he won the Olympics with Bryce and RSM Butterfly Jpen.
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Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

^Thats how the business works. The way companies fail is either bad management, or bad advertising, and BTY has been in the game this long, and there is a reason why. And there is a reason why almost all the players in the top ten use bty. Ryu Seung Min may play with XIOM, but he won the Olympics with Bryce and RSM Butterfly Jpen.


No, he won the Olympics with his right arm. Yes obviously he could not win it with a premade, but the point is that at that level, as long as the equipment is pretty much the same, it makes no difference.
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Contrary to belief, he used Kim Taek Soo for the Olympics, not RSM.
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10 year R&D eh??? Reminds me of Nike's Air Packet.  Twas actually made by someone who used to work for NASA, tried to nail it with Adidas first who said rubbish to the idea.
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Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

at that level, as long as the equipment is pretty much the same, it makes no difference.


I don't agree with this.. equipment should be compatible to the player's style of play.. The  top four Chinese players don't use carbon blades, and the top European players don't use classic Chinese rubbers.. At that level, equipment does make a difference..
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In the making, or in development, does not mean that it was actively worked on for the entire 10 years.  When the idea was first thought of, can be considered the "In the making / development" phase.  It can be misleading, but not incorrect.  I routinely set aside projects that are not deemed to be the highest priority at that time and I am sure the spring sponge was not that important becasue speed glue was still being used, but that changed and so did the priorities.
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Originally posted by metalone metalone wrote:

In the making, or in development, does not mean that it was actively worked on for the entire 10 years.  When the idea was first thought of, can be considered the "In the making / development" phase.  It can be misleading, but not incorrect.  I routinely set aside projects that are not deemed to be the highest priority at that time and I am sure the spring sponge was not that important becasue speed glue was still being used, but that changed and so did the priorities.


Of course, totally agreed upon....which is why one does not hear bty say yeah, we had the concept 8 years ago, found a vendor who can make the sponge a year ago, then started manufacturing the product just this year.

Cost for R&D is but a fraction of the justification of the price - I would assume they are spending quite a lot of dough on the sponsorships they do, and that alone could be the reason why they're positioning the Tenergy at such a price point.
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I have a question for all you guys that love Tenergy. Do you think there is any use for this rubber for the people that never speed glued. Or is it only really for the people that developed their game using glue and there style evolved around that extra pace off the equipment?, Because I'd really struggle with TOO much speed off anything faster than a normal chinese tacky on a OFF blade. If this stuff was more than 10% faster than H2 my whole game would be out the window

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I think It is a lot  faster than a comercial unglued H2.
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Tenergy 05 has speed of glued Sriver with 2 layers of speed glue.
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Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

I think It is a lot  faster than a comercial unglued H2.
 
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Oook folks, let's get back on topic.

MOL, what's your take on T25? Based on your "experienced" opinion of course.
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I dont know anything more about this rubber then you guys. Probably its not so different from T05. Maybe is different in lenght of arc?
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