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    Posted: 10/01/2008 at 2:41pm

Need to get know what blades excel at flat-hitting and strong drive strokes:

I know the same blades can be used for many different strokes as well (loops/blocks/etc, though very likely not as well) but I'd like to know which ones
are 'really' suited for flat-hits/drives.   I have found hard-feel blades
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Ones I have tried which work quite well for this purpose:
 - Violin, Clipper and Cofferlait

What are some of the others ?
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JUIC Kalinic All+ (you used to have this) is very good flat hitting blade, probably one of the best out there ...
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Yeah, I didn't give Kalinic a fair chance due to lack of power :)  Thanks.
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I'm also looking in this direction . . . 
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Balsa blades are wonderful for this purpose. If you are not limited to just wood, carbon blades like the Schlager is the best. edit: the new T11 is a cheap blade that you can try. It's carbon with balsa!
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Wouldn't Balsa make it soft for hard hits, or does it not affect it ?

Schlager, that's something I didn't consider for this purpose..though carbon may take away some of the feel during the hits ..not sure about control also.  Food for thought neverthless...thanks.
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Originally posted by thethinker thethinker wrote:

Balsa blades are wonderful for this purpose. If you are not limited to just wood, carbon blades like the Schlager is the best. edit: the new T11 is a cheap blade that you can try. It's carbon with balsa!
I think balsa or anything hollow and soft is wrong !
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Primorac carbon, Maze, Schlager etc.
Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

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Then I want them all  . . . all mine. I'm selling my car, bike, and Mickey Mantle rookie card and will use the money to fund my madness.
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Gergely the best I have tried for super flat shots
Black Devil Carbon very good too
Acoustic by far the most consistent I've ever tried.
Fast Carbon blades like sc, gergely pc etc
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one ply hinoki
multiply hinoki
Thick balsa blades are also super be for hitting because they're extremely fast and springy
 
It depends what you prefer. I prefer consistency, feel and control to pure speed.
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Tommy,
Your acoustic works very well for flat-hitting. You may need soft rubber like Joola Green energy, Tibhar Nimbus soft, Donic Platin. And Hinoki 5 or 7 ply works great too.
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Thanks, Skyline.
That is useful info about classic Gergely.   Maybe worth a try.
How's it for over the table flips and quick attacks ? 
Does the larger head-size slow things down?

I find Violin better than Acoustic for drive/hit type play.
Balsa - too springy and I think the soft feeling is not for me.
I prefer harder feel with good control/consistency and adequate speed (OFF).
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hmm..just noticed that Gergely has Balsa center ply.
>>Cypress outer, Carbon secondary and Balsa center plies best suited for power shots.
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Try, but don't laugh please. just try SANWEI A1 (Ayous) from www.hiqua.com
Only $30. Killer blade and excellent
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Originally posted by sunilid sunilid wrote:

Thanks, Skyline.
That is useful info about classic Gergely.   Maybe worth a try.
How's it for over the table flips and quick attacks ? 
Does the larger head-size slow things down?

I find Violin better than Acoustic for drive/hit type play.
Balsa - too springy and I think the soft feeling is not for me.
I prefer harder feel with good control/consistency and adequate speed (OFF).

 
I don't do much flips but for quick attacking it is very good. The headsize actually isn't large at all it's regular anyway it doesnt make things slower.
Gergely is built very consistent. But I had problems controlling it so I'm not really consistent with it. I might put Solcion on it and use it again.
 
About the violin/acoustic discussion. All the players here say the same as you. Some even claim that acoustic is not great for blocking and hitting at all. I don't agree with them. Acoustic works great for that maybe violin is better but I heard it's slower so I don't care. Also my acoustic is 96 gms maybe that has something to do with it too.
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Originally posted by sunilid sunilid wrote:

hmm..just noticed that Gergely has Balsa center ply.
>>Cypress outer, Carbon secondary and Balsa center plies best suited for power shots.
 
as far as I know it plays very differrent to the thick balsa blades like r*1 and joola kool.
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If you are concern about control then instead of balsa and carbon you can use 7-ply blades like the Darker 7p-2a or other Darker blades. Others may give you a second opinion on Darker.
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I forgot about Stiga Tube Aluminium.
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I like the 729 Dynasty Carbon Hinoki, i'm using right now.
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For my flat hitting short pip game (802/2.0 on primary side +various OX on secondary side). I plan to go with the following six blades (not listed in any specific order). All will be straight handle and in the 82-85g range:

1. Borko
2. Nittaku Acoustic
3. Darker 7p-2a
4. Darker Shake Speed 90
5. Avalox 777
6. Stiga Clipper Wood

Am I missing any great flat hitting blades?
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Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

For my flat hitting short pip game (802/2.0 on primary side +various OX on secondary side). I plan to go with the following six blades (not listed in any specific order). All will be straight handle and in the 82-85g range:

1. Borko
2. Nittaku Acoustic
3. Darker 7p-2a
4. Darker Shake Speed 90
5. Avalox 777
6. Stiga Clipper Wood
7. Sanwei A1 Ayous

Am I missing any great flat hitting blades?

Not in my knowledge :)
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Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

For my flat hitting short pip game (802/2.0 on primary side +various OX on secondary side). I plan to go with the following six blades (not listed in any specific order). All will be straight handle and in the 82-85g range:

1. Borko
2. Nittaku Acoustic
3. Darker 7p-2a
4. Darker Shake Speed 90
5. Avalox 777
6. Stiga Clipper Wood

Am I missing any great flat hitting blades?



Never tried it personally, but isn't the BTY Sardius supposed to be very hard and fast... a "Sniper" blade?!
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Don't forget the Avalox P700
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Originally posted by Kalin Kalin wrote:

Don't forget the Avalox P700


But where can we get one under 90g?
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Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

Originally posted by Kalin Kalin wrote:

Don't forget the Avalox P700


But where can we get one under 90g?
 
Mine is 88 gr. (flared)
 
Bought this one in Germany.
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I am a flat hitter at times and I use a
Gergely 21 fl   good control and they will not get it back
Blade: yasaka ma lin soft carbon
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Originally posted by sunilid sunilid wrote:

hmm..just noticed that Gergely has Balsa center ply. >>Cypress outer, Carbon secondary and Balsa center plies best suited for power shots.


If this is correct what you write, this is a same/similar construction to the mentioned Hinoki Carbon: Balsa Core, Carbon secondary, Hinoki (=cypress) outer plies. Extremely springy, non-linear speed (explodes on fast drives), extremely hard touch, difficult to play topspin with because of the exploding speed. I had Bryce on Hinoki Carbon and could smash even chopped balls. But its hard to control. Maybe Gergely and Hinoki Carbon are pretty the similar.
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Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

For my flat hitting short pip game (802/2.0 on primary side +various OX on secondary side). I plan to go with the following six blades (not listed in any specific order). All will be straight handle and in the 82-85g range:

1. Borko
2. Nittaku Acoustic
3. Darker 7p-2a
4. Darker Shake Speed 90
5. Avalox 777
6. Stiga Clipper Wood

Am I missing any great flat hitting blades?



Are you sure those 6 are good blades for flat hitting? I am not so sure.. At least the clipper definitely doesn't look good for flat hitting for me.

Then again.. with triple sealing, it might be good..
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joola mc1 is good for flat-hitting Thumbs%20Up
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