What is the ideal serving rubber?

What is the most spiniest possible rubber for serving? What topsheet, thickness, hardness is ideal for serving?
Note that I don't care about anything else besides serving for this discussion.

TACKY!!!!!!

Tenergy is pretty spiny 2 for serves, but TACKY!!!!! is probably the best.

the spinniest rubber for serving that i ever used was Hurricane 3..
With the right technique it has unbelievable spin..

Geospin Tacky works well too..

Generally I would say tacky chinese stuff - my favourite of all time being Black 729 Cream MRS.

However, I have recently discovered that the non-tacky topsheet on Tibhar Super Defense 40 produces the most spin ever on my serves, yes even more than the tacky Chinese stuff. The topsheet is VERY soft and thin.

@Cole Ely if you have nothing better to do with your time try removing this topsheet and putting it on a Quattro sponge.  Maybe this will be even better than UL???

bbkon wrote: if your looking for a rubber to make spinny serves then you dont know how to serve,,better spend that $ in a good coach

I'm not looking for a rubber to just make a serve, I'm looking for a rubber to make the spiniest possible serve, even with perfect technique the spin still depends on the rubber

Wow BBKON, it seems that nothing positive coming from you.

While spinniest serves are good, it is the deception that I think more important.

I don't have much experience with tacky rubbers, but using H3, my serves have more bites/kicks.  I can produce similar path side-spin serves that turn almost 90 degrees (with Mark V unglued), but with H3 unglued, although it goes similar path, but it seems that it has more RPM in it.

Surely a LACK of spin on a serve is just as beneficial as maximum spin. I think a rubber which offers you different gears and an ability to vary your serve spin speed would be most beneficial.

Remember the goal is to get the return as high as possible in a predictable position. doraemon got it right on the deception comment.

IMO, H3 is pretty spinny for serving but not much spinnier compare to sriver/mark v/mendo mp. But keep in mind that timing, placement and varying speed/spin (even no spin) are key elements to good serves. The more spin you serve, the more spin it comes back :) Just my 2 cents.

bbkon is a terrorist hiding in the mountains playing tt with osama on rock tables using floor tiles as a paddle. thats why he never has nething positive to say.

Nah he didn't ask the ideal one... he just asked the spinniest one...

Would it not be, in theory, a slow blade (=max dwell time) with a sticky rubber (& possibly a soft sponge)

Sticky rubbers...Chinese rubbers