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tommyzai
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Wait until they ban the gear he uses . . . tears will flow like waterfalls.
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tabl10s
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I'll say it again...WE MUST BE RID OF ADHAM!.
Tennis hasn't adopted a bigger, fuzzier ball, Cycling hasn't banned bikes heavier than 15lbs, hindered innovation or said that certain types of lubricants can't be used on the drivetrain that contain silicone because it might make parts spin faster. Only in T.T. do we suffer so.
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The Shakehander
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Actually in Tennis, they did move to a slightly bigger and heavy ball a long time ago when the racket technology got too "fast" *FYI* (one reason the TT ball got bigger as gluing made the game faster) With cycling 15lbs is the only weight ALL bikes must weight in at, they also have a wheel configuration to meet also. That aside their main rule is anti doping, as the sport is an endurance type, the athlete themselves need to be checked for illegal substances that may enhance their fitness level. |
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tommyzai
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Why was frictionless pips banned?
I have not received ONE legitimate reason. |
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The Shakehander
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I was wondering the same too, as in the rules (as i know it), it doesn't break any? Plus i wanted that on my backhand against some of those really sticky rubber serves but now i have to hit thru them too of my backhand |
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petermoo
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You need to check what brand was affected by the ban.
You will notice its never the big brands that are affected.
The bans dont reflect the playabilty of the equipment being banned so much as whether the maker of it played ball or not.
Two years ago we were told that Dawei rubber was banned.
People were thinking there must be some defect, some serious problem with the product.
Turns out the ITTF was strongarming them for 'approval fees'.
When the fees were paid, the rubbers became legal again.
If you want to play TT without being bothered by the ever changing approval list, use the big companies stuff.
Petermoo
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kenneyy88
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Tennis has slowed down the grass a great deal. They banned spaghetti strings. Unless you are a pro, personally I think the complaining is too much. |
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roundrobin
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JimT
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You have used the wrong smiley face |
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mwyatt
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i believe that it's healthy to complain sometimes, i'm not much of a complainer myself but no good comes from just accepting everything on face value.
but even after all the complaints i've read, the majority are aimed towards the ITTF president. which makes no sense in my mind, it's obvious the game is in his best interest. even if the changes don't seem to fit right now, they most certainly will in time. constructive criticism is great but too much dreary complaining makes this forum a boring read sometimes. |
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tommyzai
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I believe SOME of the changes being made will destroy the sport. The ITTF is eliminating diversity. The president of the ITTF should be held somewhat accountable just as the president of the USA is held accountable for the mess his country's in. |
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mwyatt
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well if you know all that then you'll know the president of most things is a 'puppet' for the masses. the team behind these people are the real experts, they will know a great deal about each area of the sport. what i'm trying to say is decisions arent just made on the spot, thought goes in to them and a wide range of people need to get behind the idea before it ever gets in to circulation. the fact is the majority of us have never reached the international level, but at that level it's a different game. any changes made I BELIEVE are for the greater good (because of the process involved). |
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dimitris
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Which sport is that? |
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mwyatt
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Wiff Waff !
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tommyzai
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But why is banning frictionless pips beneficial to the sport. I have asked this question over and over and over and not once has Adham or anyone given me a good reason. Keep in mind, I don't use and never used frictionless; yet, I know players who are defensive in nature and did use them. it's just not fair.
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sebas-aguirre
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ok ok "goeasyonfiji" or whatever your name is:
if everything should be accepted as it is, not discussed, no complains should be made.... then..... why do you access to table tennis forums and start threads and put your oppinions? according to your view, you should just go, play, then go home. you could do that if you wanted. but instead you choose to come to a forum and tell everybody "dont think, dont have a critical thought". live and let live man |
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addoydude
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reasons have been given for it, you just don't think they are "good" reasons. |
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BeaverMD
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I think probably the ITTF doesn't want to see players just standing in front of the table Dr. N style and just blocking and blocking and pick-hitting once in a while. It doesn't fit their "vision" of the sport.
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tommyzai
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I still haven't gotten a legit answer. If Beaver is correct, then the ITTF has lost their way. Their vision? What the heck is their vision? No more Chinese? If you flat hit against Dr. N corner to corner with some drop shots what would happen? Or, does it interfere with Euro Style looping?
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BeaverMD
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Judging by the ITTF's very recent actions, the short pips flat-hitting style won't be phased out. Same goes for anti. But it appears that the LP blocking style definitely, I think their time might run out in the near future. Also, like you wrote, the LP blocking style interferes with the "vision": athletic looping whereas short pips close to the table blockers don't really interfere with that, even if they're using slick short pips like Dr. Evil. And short pips blockers have a greater element of athleticism as opposed to the Dr. N LP blocking/pick-hitting style. That's just my interpretation judging from the ITTF's recent actions. As for a legit answer, I don't think you'll get one. They'll just say it was voted democratically... and it was. Too bad. LP blockers were a headache to play against but I thought having the variety was fun.
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TT_Freak
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I see a lot of complaining and no action. If you want speedglue to come back, then set up your own federation. If not, then you play under the ITTF like everyone else who has been training glueless for a year before the ban.
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tommyzai
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I'm not complaining about speed glue. I think harmful substances should be banned, especially since it's so important to bring the young into the sport. But, what about the rubbers? Why are ANY banned?
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tommyzai
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I'm with you Beaver.
Diversity should be encouraged, even if they're a pain in the &5# to play. |
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roundrobin
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bbkon
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the members that are happy with the glue ban are the ones that can t block spinny loops or are too fat to move player s that woild be happy playing with sandpaper.
Science is so faSt. it took decades to know ciagarete could get you cancer, but a genius like sharara found that the boosters was non healthy and we found out how to make speed glue without VOC, is not "healthy" to stop ittf plans to make you shell out $
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roundrobin
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jkillashark
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Stop whining about other people whining.
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Thylacine
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The empty-headed ITTF officials are trying to standardize the game. They will be happy if they manage to throw away all other styles except the sh. Penholders should also be banned because they play too many 3rd ball attacks and this is not typical for the basement ping pong. |
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BeaverMD
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Yeah, I've watched some of Amelie's videos on youtube. Her backhand is more Carl Prean than Deng Yaping. Pretty awesome! But the thing is, she plays at a level where she HAS to attack. I believe in the U.S., there are players that reach at least 2200 just blocking with LP's "as practiced by older players". So in a way, things that help the close to the table blockers (slick LP's) encourage standing around and just blocking. So when the voting members at ITTF, who are probably recreational players, saw an opening to ban these slick LP's, they went for it.
Also, at the end of the day, LP's and I'm not just talking about the slick ones, are designed for deception. So that's another element the voting members might not have liked.
The good news for Amelie is I think she can use other stuff and still be effective. I suggest BTY Challenger myself if she's reading this.
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