Welcome to Short-Pips Club

pong_me wrote: I want to join yo guys. I'm a lefty and use Sardius w 729 (2.2) Jap sponge FH, 802 BH. I use pips out mostly for block, push and sudden BH smash the opponent's push return. Have hard time loop with 802, probably don't do it correctly? If someone can give me some tips? thanks

Well, try to just roll the ball over first, don't try to loop too hard at first.

pong_me wrote: I want to join yo guys. I'm a lefty and use Sardius w 729 (2.2) Jap sponge FH, 802 BH. I use pips out mostly for block, push and sudden BH smash the opponent's push return. Have hard time loop with 802, probably don't do it correctly? If someone can give me some tips? thanks

Read the article below.

http://forum.oneofakindtrading.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=4496

radical wrote: Other reportedly SP members: He Zhi Wen Johnny Huang David Zhuang Gao Jun Liu Guoliang Jiang Jialiang Zhuang Zedong

It's really nice if we have these players in our club, but I don't know if they want to or not

Who else plays short-pips beside those players?

Dang Ye Seo (South Korea)

My newest weapon NP-2 on one side and NP-8 on the other. 

Nuttin but rubber and wood.

speedy wrote: radical wrote: Other reportedly SP members:He Zhi WenJohnny HuangDavid ZhuangGao JunLiu GuoliangJiang JialiangZhuang Zedong It's really nice if we have these players in our club, but I don't know if they want to or not Who else plays short-pips beside those players?Dang Ye Seo (South Korea)

And don't forget the choppers!

Ding Song (CHN)
Hou Yingchao (CHN)
Fan Ying (CHN)
Li Qian (POL)
Li Jie (NED)
Haneyoshi Junko (JAP)

All 802 users with the exception of Hou (TSP Spectol) and Haneyoshi (DHS Sharping, I think)

Take a look at my sig 

Effective mind-bending machine. It can loop effectively even mid-distance and can send balls at Mach 3 speed. Most effective style is loop-hit-loop and hit-hit-loop. Just don't go into a routine, keep your opponent's head messed-up. You can throw in a couple of disguised chop-blocks and they would be constantly wondering what went wrong...

speedy wrote: radical, Where did you get your Komann blade?  I have Komann Blue Tiger.  I need to find another one.

Sorry, I missed your post and question.  I get my stuff from Table Tennis International.

radical wrote: Other reportedly SP members: He Zhi Wen Johnny Huang David Zhuang Gao Jun Liu Guoliang Jiang Jialiang Zhuang Zedong

bbkon wrote: radical wrote: speedy wrote: radical, Where did you get your Komann blade?  I have Komann Blue Tiger.  I need to find another one. Sorry, I missed your post and question.  I get my stuff from Table Tennis International.   that blade should be fast ,look that plies, can i find it in cpen?

I can see that he does have some Chinese Penhold
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have been using short pips for about 4 training sessions now, in my backhand....
I used to be a two wing looper, but I don't train a lot (you really need to train to be consistent with bh loop) and I don't tend to move a lot in matches.
Until now the short pips are really cool.
You can be really aggressive, the incoming spin doesn't affect you that much, it's just a lot of fun.
With the inverted rubber I would miss many more balls, and always had to think about whether to hit the ball flat or top spin with my backhand, how to receive serves, how to chop, be aware of the incoming spin, all that.
Now the game has become simpler and more fun, just go back to basic, hit the ball hard and make it land on the other side of the table .
I think if I was an elite player I would have a disadvantage with the pips, but for my level I think short pips are a plus.
The only problem I saw is that it's not that immediate to change from inverted to short pips....
The strokes are different, the position in the court, so you have to adapt everything.
When changing from inverted to another inverted rubber, it's just a matter of a couple of strokes, then you get used to the new rubber.
I am using
blade -> joola mc1
fh rubber -> haifu whale II
bh rubber -> dhs 651
I think I will stay with this rubber.
It is cheap, fast, not so spiny.
Does ai fukuhara play with inverted in forehand and short pips in backhand?
I want to identify a more or less popular player who plays this setup....

woohoo SP rox.. esp the sound of it..

okiduki wrote: woohoo SP rox.. esp the sound of it.. i was using repulse a old butterfly blade with tsp tyranno and senkoh with mortiso SP works pretty well   cheers SP rocks

tyranno is relatively faster than 802-40 though i nv use 802 b4.. the sponge is softer. it also depends on wad blade u will paste on.

Yes, the most important thing is to have something you are comfortable with and also give you the confident.

BTW, where are you buying your Komann stuff?
Bob Petty at Table Tennis International is the only one I know who sells in USA.