Tacky Rubber That Feels Like Gambler Outlaw?

I don't wanna sound like an idiot but I haven't heard anyone mention the sponge degree of outlaw at all.. Is there just one version available?

First day, I put the 'Side Effect' rubber on my TBS. The rubbers feels mushy tonight, its probably because its freshly glued. The red top sheet is translucent and soft and semi-tacky. As far as pre-tuned, I can't tell.

pingpongrob wrote: nick911sc wrote: I don't wanna sound like an idiot but I haven't heard anyone mention the sponge degree of outlaw at all.. Is there just one version available? It's about 41 degrees, similar to LKT Rapid Speed.

jt99sf: thats strange, because i see wraith is being marked as Spin Effect on the ITTF website and not as Side Effect.
Anyways, i am excited about that rubber. I want to know the company ratings of that rubber on speed, spin and control. I would like to compare it with Outlaw.
Tom told me that this one is a tacky rubber with a lot more speed.

Do you have any idea how Gambler Aces plays?I see that its spin rating is 98 which is way beyond 88 for outlaw.
Did you get a chance to try Aces also? If yes, can you give me a speed. spin and control rating for that one too.

I would rate Outlaw as (on a scale of 10):-

Speed :- 9.3
Spin :- 9.0
Control :- 8.9

I would really like to hear your comments on my questions!

JimT,

Just bought some Gambler Shadow Spin Effect 2.2 from Zeropong.  I should get it Monday, just in time for me to glue it up for league play on Tuesday! I'll let you guys know how it goes.

what is the throw of Outlaw? Does it suit an alc blade well?

Thanks, I may give this outlaw a try after all...

Which is tackier? Wraith or Shadow

Looks like both are using the same topsheet just different sponges.

My first shippment has yet to arrive, but my unerstanding is that the Wraith and Shadows topsheets are not the same. Wraith is similar to Rapid Soft while Shadow is tackier. 

BeaverMD wrote: snapa wrote: BeaverMD wrote:   On the package of the Outlaw, there is a picture on the top right that states "Pre Tuned Technology" right under the small picture of two gears.  On the Wraith and Shadow, it has been changed.  What is written now? It's blurry if you zoom in.  Are these not tuned rubbers? Thanks. I'm guessing it says Conic Structure Technology, leading me to believe that it's not pre-tuned.   Thanks Snap.  That's too bad.  I just got the Outlaw, which I'll write a review on soon and much like JKC, I was pretty impressed with its performance.  I was hoping for the same tuned sponge on a much tackier topsheet.  Anyway, I still might try Wraith and I just hope it's a bit better than LKT Torrent "pip structure glue effect" which was a bit flat.  Still, Torrent was quite good for the backhand.

Just got the Shadow in today.  It says Conic-Shaped Technology.  And to confirm, it did not have the same smell as Outlaw.

ThaiLe wrote: snapa wrote: Just got the Shadow in today.  It says Conic-Shaped Technology. Snapa, Is Shadow seem lighter or heavier than Outlaw?  And it is mild tacky, right? Thx.

Not really the best person to ask since I don't have a scale, but from me picking it up, it seems lighter.  Then again, I don't have an unopened packed of Outlaw on me either.

Actually, just opened the black one to check for you.  It's very light.  Also, mildly tacky.  I'll have more info when I get back from class.  I glued up red on my FH and I'm pressing it now.  I should be able to cut it by the time I get back tonight.