"Must have" blades.

dragon kid wrote: MildSeven wrote: Thats funny because its performance is identical to some of the blades being paired with H3 in professional table tennis. My friend has the Viscaria and it's definitely better suited with H3 than the Keyshot.. My loops are getting smashed time and time again because I have problems loading spin into it.. It paired well with Tenergy and Outlaw though. For the must have blade, I would say Acoustic is worth the price..

I have both the Keyshot and Viscaria and the Keyshot is slightly faster with slightly more dwell time. It is maybe around the same speed as Maze or a touch slower. Either way, its dead smack in the center of all of the Visc., TBS, Maze type rackets and certainly not different enough that one rubber would go well with one of these blades and at the same time not go well with Keyshot. All of the ALC rackets were derived from Viscaria, which in turn was derived from Keyshot (well, not structurally derived, but planned as the replacement). When that was not accepted as well as a Keyshot replacement by the market they made TBS as an even closer successor.

Also, everyone I have met who has been playing since at least the 90's has fond memories of Keyshot, whether they used it or not. It was more widely accepted and loved than even TBS today. If we are talking classic blades, as the subject of this thread, Keyshot is without a doubt the most "classic" offering of the most popular brand in the last 20 years. The whole OFF ALC phenomenon owes its existence to Keyshot.

Review of Korbel SK7 on this thread:
http://forums.oneofakindtrading.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=3451

Anton Chigurh wrote: Slightly off topic:   Does anyone know who might be selling the Petr Korbel with a straight handle?   Also, how does the old Korbel compare to the Korbel SK7 and the Korbel Speed?

I like Fatt's list ... let me just add my favorite 729 V-6 to it (somewhere in the neighborhood of Samsonov Alpha) and it's more or less perfect.

Then again, let's kick Amultart out of there - too stiff too fast. Then my WRC-10 has gotta be on it (right before DS 90).

Hmm... haven't really played with Acoustic that much. Let's replace it with M.Maze or Galaxy K-5, and also add Galaxy T-4 in the end. Now it looks good! Oh, right! Alpha is not really for everyone. Let's put Nexy Color instead.

So, finally:

Nittaku Violin, 729 V-6, M.Maze, Nexy Color, Photino, Dotec Waldner Hinoki, Darker Speed 90, WRC-10, Galaxy T-4

almost same as fatt's... almost...

Go buy them all - support the equipment makers!

debraj wrote: fatt wrote: My all time winners from slower to faster (your mileage may vary): violin, samsonov alpha, acoustic, photino, dotec waldner hinoki, speed 90, Amultart photino is my final choice because it can do it all :)   thanks for instantly curing me from my ej-wish to try 'acoustic' in future....

DS 90 not just more forgiving - it basically has no vibration at all. Tibhar must have bought some really cheap, low quality Hinoki to make their blades.

If you don't want to spend 160 bucks on DS 90 (with S&H from Iruiru it will be at least that, or even 180) I suggest you contact Kevin at AmericanHinoki.com and ask him to make you a WRC-9 (9.3, at least) with burled cork handle. You'll get a custom made blade with your own inscription if you want it for $75 shipped.

I tried 2 of them with the same result and I read the same comments everywhere I read about it. I am convinced it is consistent a characteristic of the H-1-9.

never tried it. I read here and there it's just a wanna be Speed 90 and that unlike Speed 90 it gives a little virations off the sweet spot.

Awesome... Thanks for all the info, fatt and JimT. When my spare cash comes through, the Darker Speed 90 has made the list based on your input and others'.

Anton Chigurh wrote:   Also, how does the old Korbel compare to the Korbel SK7 and the Korbel Speed?

Let's say Korbel original is the medium of medium, meaning it has medium speed and feel is medium (not soft, not hard).  Its thickness is 5.9 mm.

Korbel SK7 is stiffer, but softer and definitely faster.  It is thicker, about 6.7 - 6.8 mm.

Korbel Speed is stiffer, harder and faster.  It is thinner, about 5.7 mm.

If I have to ditch my Korbel, I would change it to Korbel SK7.  But get the ST, I have FL and it is smaller than that of Korbel.  FYI, Korbel himself changed to Korbel SK7.

Korbel Speed is actually similar to original Korbel, but better in the hitting department and about the same (if not less) in looping department (compared to original Korbel).

For Korbel Speed, again, choose the ST.  My ST is comfy, but the FL is lousy.

My list:
Violin, Timo Boll ZLF,  ALC, Petr Korbel,  PowerDrive, Clipper Classic, Hock

Didn't find Photino good for over the table shots, close to the net game.

anton, get a stiga ebenholz 7

Anton Chigurh wrote: doraemon wrote: Let's say Korbel original is the medium of medium, meaning it has medium speed and feel is medium (not soft, not hard).� Its thickness is 5.9 mm.Korbel SK7 is stiffer, but softer and definitely faster.� It is thicker, about 6.7 - 6.8 mm.Korbel Speed is stiffer, harder and faster.� It is thinner, about 5.7 mm.If I have to ditch my Korbel, I would change it to Korbel SK7.� But get the ST, I have FL and it is smaller than that of Korbel.� FYI, Korbel himself changed to Korbel SK7.Korbel Speed is actually similar to original Korbel, but better in the hitting department and about the same (if not less) in looping department (compared to original Korbel).For Korbel Speed, again, choose the ST.� My ST is comfy, but the FL is lousy. � Thanks for the info--quite helpful. I cannot abide any FL handle so I'm glad to hear ST is nice, if I indeed end up purchasing one. Thanks again.

What's your beef with FL handles? In fact, what is everyone on this forum's beef with FL handles? Is that just a no-no for those who "get it", or is it just a personal preference? Is it an aesthetic factor? I own a FL handle, am I a chump? Will everyone point and laugh at me? Somebody fill me in.

Anton Chigurh wrote: qynthnghm wrote: Anton Chigurh wrote: doraemon wrote: Let's say Korbel original is the medium of medium, meaning it has medium speed and feel is medium (not soft, not hard).� Its thickness is 5.9 mm.Korbel SK7 is stiffer, but softer and definitely faster.� It is thicker, about 6.7 - 6.8 mm.Korbel Speed is stiffer, harder and faster.� It is thinner, about 5.7 mm.If I have to ditch my Korbel, I would change it to Korbel SK7.� But get the ST, I have FL and it is smaller than that of Korbel.� FYI, Korbel himself changed to Korbel SK7.Korbel Speed is actually similar to original Korbel, but better in the hitting department and about the same (if not less) in looping department (compared to original Korbel).For Korbel Speed, again, choose the ST.� My ST is comfy, but the FL is lousy. � Thanks for the info--quite helpful. I cannot abide any FL handle so I'm glad to hear ST is nice, if I indeed end up purchasing one. Thanks again. What's your beef with FL handles? In fact, what is everyone on this forum's beef with FL handles? Is that just a no-no for those who "get it", or is it just a personal preference? Is it an aesthetic factor? I own a FL handle, am I a chump? Will everyone point and laugh at me? Somebody fill me in. Relax buddy... It's sheer personal preference. I can't stand the way the flare rubs against my palm when I hold a paddle. I find FH to BH transitions much easier and much more comfortable with a ST handle.

Ah, thanks. I didn't intend for that post to sound accusatory or defensive in anyway. Just my sense of humor.

Hi Fatt,

What is serving "Swedish style"?