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Large hands I think German brands are best: 2 I like are - Andro JM Saieve (sp?) and Joola Chen Wei Xing - both have very large comfortable ST handles.
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Thanks for the info jrs. Do you know if Joola handles are a consistent size and design from one model to the next, or are they a different size and design for each model (like Butterfly handles)?
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For me - Nittaku Acoustic or Violin ST
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Originally posted by ~stiga21~ ~stiga21~ wrote:

Thanks for the info jrs. Do you know if Joola handles are a consistent size and design from one model to the next, or are they a different size and design for each model (like Butterfly handles)?
From the little I've seen, any blade with WSI as part of it's design has the same style handles. All the other blades may vary as I have a Torre that is a bit different from my WSI blades.
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Originally posted by ~stiga21~ ~stiga21~ wrote:

Thanks for the info jrs. Do you know if Joola handles are a consistent size and design from one model to the next, or are they a different size and design for each model (like Butterfly handles)?
Sorry stiga21 - not sure - Joola Chen Wei Xing is a chopper blade - so it is an oversize blade. Might want to check the paddlepalace website. I think they give handle sizes there.
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Are all of the Stiga Hardwood blades the same size and shape?
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Stiga OC
X = 29 mm
Y = 21 mm
Diagonal = 27 mm

Compare these to those given on the first page of this thread. All made possible by poor quality control. 

Stiga should be ashamed to put "Made in Sweden" on their classics.
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Borko made a nice cork handle for me once. Hen Shu Fu!
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 Yasaka Sweden Classic ST. Big fat delicious handle.
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Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:

 Yasaka Sweden Classic ST. Big fat delicious handle.

Frogger, could you take some measurements please?
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 Length 101
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Frogger,

How long ago did you buy the blade? I'm wondering if the current version still has those dimensions. Thanks.
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I bought the blade 12 years ago. Love the handle but the blade is to slow for me.
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Nittaku Runlox 5 (in the middle) compared to Stiga Clipper and TBS.

ST handle of Runlox 5: A 29mm, B 23mm, C (diagonal) 29mm (oval-squarish)

Exactly the same as Stiga Clipper ST handle (both shape and measurements).
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I like Hallmark's straight blades with the strip of cork down each side. Nice and comfortable size, plus the cork gives some extra grip and sweat absorption. 
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Could you guys tell me about Tibhar ST handles? There was mention of the Samsonov alpha being too thin and uncomfortable.

I am particularly interested in the Tibhar Stratus Powerwood ST handle.

The only Tibhar blade I held in my hand was the COS3 Def which has a large and long ST handle but that is a defensive one and oversize.

Thanks for any input.
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The Force Pro ST handle is thin but I am getting used to it. The Force Pro flare is my favorite flare/conical handle. Haven't tried Stratus Powerwood but I hear it has a large head so one should definitely try the blade before buying if one dislikes thin handles absolutely. The force pro st handle mostly disappoints because of the high expectations from the Flare handle.
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Originally posted by Hans Regenkurt Hans Regenkurt wrote:

Could you guys tell me about Tibhar ST handles? There was mention of the Samsonov alpha being too thin and uncomfortable.

I am particularly interested in the Tibhar Stratus Powerwood ST handle.

The only Tibhar blade I held in my hand was the COS3 Def which has a large and long ST handle but that is a defensive one and oversize.

Thanks for any input.


Have not tried a ST handle from Tibhar, but the FL on the SPW is the most comfortable handle I have ever held.
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I actually find SPW ST handle one of the most comfortable ST handles I've been experienced so far. If you hate tiny Korbel FL handle, you'll love SPW ST - thick, wide and long. And I'm STraightholder, neither FL nor AN.

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Originally posted by Hans Regenkurt Hans Regenkurt wrote:

Could you guys tell me about Tibhar ST handles? There was mention of the Samsonov alpha being too thin and uncomfortable.
Thanks for any input.
Yes, I fix mine by rubber cementing a rubber grip to my straight handles.
I originally bought straight handles to go into a vise I use for testing but now I am use to them and prefer round handles.  I really like the round handles on my Firewall Plus blades.  They are good for twiddling.

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It's fairly easy to change the shape of a straight handle.  I simply use epoxy to increase the handle size and length, and reshape it with a sander to the way I like it:




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Design looks fugly though, I hate to say.
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The most comfortable to me are:

BTY TBS ST. squared shape that is not small. Feels great.

Stiga Clipper Classic ST. oval, fat. nice feel.
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Wider handle - Stiga Clipper CR
Rounder handle - Donic Waldner Senso Carbon or Ovtcharov Senso Carbon

These blades feel comfortable, but as always everyone has their own unique preferences :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hans Regenkurt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/16/2015 at 9:20am
Thank you everybody for the input. It has helped me narrow down my search to two blades which is the Stiga Clipper ST and the Tibhar SPW ST. I am more inclined to get the latter one because it is thinner and I hope to get a better feel with it. But at the same time I am trying out a friend's Clipper next week to see how it fits me.
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Best: OSP Immune OX--You get what you pay for.

Honourable mention: Stiga AR Classic/Off Classic

Worst: TB ALC--Sometimes you don't get what you pay for! (Too small, square and...wierd.  Great Blade though.)


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As with other treads there is no good or bad. It's what feels best to the player. Player A may love it while player B thinks it's uncomfortable. Best advice is to find the blade you are interested in hold it and play with it.

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I never have a problem with uncomfortable handles.  LOL  Here's an extreme example of what you can do to reshape the handle with epoxy (Don't laugh...anyone who held this paddle commented how awesome it felt in their hand!):




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