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Pushblocker
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Larry is going up and down.. He got into 2200's a little earlier this year but dropped again to his lowest level.. He used to be 2400 and still has the 2400 strokes but his athleticism due to his weight is not what it used to be.. He likes to eat.. and so do I.. I also should be 30 lbs lighter...
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pongcrazy
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What setup was Werner using when playing in the garage?
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Pushblocker
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Schlager Carbon blade (with thinner inner ply like the Primorac Carbon) and Tenergy 05 on both sides..
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melarimsa
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Pushblocker
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Don't forget, Werner is sponsored by Butterfly.. So, whenever he uses a pre-made paddle, he'll use this one
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figgie
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fascinating
world class player against 2300 player is like watching a 2000+ player v a basement player.
I always wondered how that would look... and here we are.
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silverhair
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Certainly a Halex. But with Tenergy 05 of both sides. |
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7plywood
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Long pips players are the ones being able to generate the biggest upsets. Assuming quite passive LP style, it all boils down to opponents capability of reading spin of a ball coming from the pips correctly. If the opponent has little or no practice against long pips he may loose to LP player ranked much lower - the opposite is also true: player with lots of practice against long pips may be able to win with a junk rubber player who is rated much higher. Practice is what counts - theory is not enough since you need to break habits.
The ranking of a LP player is determined (in big part) by the familiarity of the style to his opponents. This familiarity is very low even at the high-amateur US level. The higher the rating goes the familiarity becomes much greater and all weaknesses of a LP player are being exploited. |
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TBS9x
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That is very true. I think most players even young players like me who play not only for fun will know that when playing against pip players, you shouldn't serve with lot of spin, serve long no spin and smash,etc. But when you have to actually do it, it's hard. To win a LP blocker/chopper ( chopper is a littler harder I think if it's some one like Joo Se Hyuk => even Schlager himself lost against Joo few months ago ), you need to practice a lot against that type of player, theory is an important part but practice is even more important. @Pushblocker: I dont know how USATT ratings work and you deserve your ratings or not but I'm sure that if I play against you I will have a big chance to lose and most others will also suffer like me This is one odd style |
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le xex
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@pushblocker: if you were to play with inverted both sides what would you estimate your rating to be?
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roundrobin
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@pushblocker: if you were to play with inverted both sides what would you estimate your rating to be?
I think he will be around 500... But then, that's not a fair question, is it? No one is not required to master inverted rubber play before learning how to block with long pips... What will your rating be if you were to use Pushblocker's equipment? |
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ZingyDNA
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This is very interesting. I see your videos are all against high-rated attackers. Do you have any videos of you playing defenders? |
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Speedplay
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Good answer Roundrobin A guy who have dedicated his entire game to master the LP block will probably not be very good with inverted rubbers. A funny thing about this style is the upsets it can cause, because this style can beat players who are rated way higher, but they can also lose to lower rated players who actually knows how to deal with this style. Also, when playing against players who knows how to play against this style, it is really hard for the blocker to look good, while a looper can be eaten alive, but still look good against a better looper. |
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stepheN
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funny to see a worldclass player playing in a garage, schlager seems to be a very grounded person.
what leagues did you play back in austria (plus a compare to germany if possible) ? arent long pips that much used in the US? |
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Rich215
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Cool.......makes me want to delve into the dark side......just for a taste! haaa I would like to try some LP's and block like that......
Thanks for sharring! Let me know when you drain your indoor pool...Id love to skate it before you fill it in! |
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Pushblocker
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Check the video against Bogeyhunter.. He beat me 3:1.. Attacking choppers give my trouble.. However, I usualy beat classic defenders.. Beat a 2130 rated chopper this year at the US Open Warm Up tournament in June (Elman Concepcion).. However, I've lost 3 times against Werner Stollenmeier who plays classical defense but he usually beats me attacking.. If he chops and pushes, I win..
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Pushblocker
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In germany, my level should be a solid Landesliga player in most states.. I'm sure that in some of the stronger states, I might be somewhere at the bottom if I'd play Landesliga..
Fact is that just about all Landesliga players with a USATT rating are rated in the 2100's. The latest player who played a tournament in the US was Christoph Haeusler who is a solid Landesliga player in Germany and he has a low 2100 rating..
My current rating puts me in the top 3.5% of all players in the country..
Gruesse nach Deutschland vom sonnigen Florida!!
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Pushblocker
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Swiff
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Seeing Schlager play in that garage is like seeing a dog walk on it's hind legs. lol
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bogeyhunter
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Jonan
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I have to say after watching that vid, those forehand serves look pretty blatantly under arm there. Looking from both sides of the table him serving, 95% sure it was hidden there. |
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Swiff
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Rich215
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Can you show a pic of it ....deep end curves area at bottom...and close up of the coping would be nice. If local vert skaters saw that thing...they would be over there right now..haaaaa |
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naijachief
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who no know go know
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qynthnghm
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Ha, you're hype. |
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silverhair
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If pushblocker is an over 2200 player and you haven't played his specific kind of long pips defense, he probably has the edge in a match. It's only when a player has an opportunity to play against a specific player a few times do the vulnerabilities and how to exploit them. |
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qynthnghm
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You're absolutely right, Silverhair. And I have already acknowledged my disadvantage in a previous post. TT over Study was just yanking my chain, that or antagonizing me. |
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silverhair
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Oh nobody EVER does that on THIS forum! I make it a point to play against long pips from time to time just to make sure I think during a point. I suggest that you find one just to help sharpen your skills against that kind of hardware. |
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