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huizhao85
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Posted: 01/14/2010 at 1:00pm |
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I've done my fair share of EJing last year but really went overboard with glue EJing. I'll share my experience with the following 5 glues that I bought.
Haifu Solubility Bond - This glue is the best that I came across and unfortunately its the last glue I tried of the bunch. Pretty easy to apply if you have your own brush. Decent bond strength, easy to remove from blade, no damage to unsealed blades. The best part is its easy to remove from rubber as the entire glue residue comes off in one single peel. This may or may not improve rubber performance if you apply more layers but thats a separate topic. Pretty cheap at 25 bucks for 300ml. I wont be using another glue. Dawei Waterbased glue - Not the strongest bond but wont damage your unsealed blade either. Pretty cheap and easy to apply. I've had rubbers that I can peel the glue off easily but not off some rubbers. DHS #15 glue - Similar to Dawei but a little stronger bond. Also easier to peel glue off rubber if i remember correctly. Friendship 729 Waterbased glue- This glue is terrible, easily the worst of the bunch. Its bond is so strong that when I peeled my Gambler Outlaw off the blade the rubber tore in two. Also its impossible to remove the glue residue from the sponge and it even leaves some on the blade. Yasaka Mizunori - Pretty bad as well. Its very sticky and messy to apply. When you peel the rubber off its impossible to remove the residue and the sponge will remain sticky and uneven. |
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ppmax
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Thanks.
I'm sold on Haifu solubility thing, too. Cheap enough. For Tear Mender users, the Haifu glue is better. |
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igorponger
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Hi, guys, It would be very great that you also give a try to the "primary product latex", the cheapest voc-free adhesive stuff on market nowdays - $5 for 500ml. http://www.latexflesh.com -Bonding efficiency? -How easy to remove off? Thanks.
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FireHorse
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huizhao85,
Could you tell me where to get this glue? Thanks!
Everybody else,
Is there any other VOC-free glue that from paddlepalace.com that is easy to apply and does not cause any damage to the blade and rubbers? I haven't found a good VOC-free glue at all. Most of them are pretty messy to clean up and also some of them cause damage to the blade and rubbers.
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JimT
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this link doesn't lead to any glue product... a typo, perhaps? |
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JimT
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http://www.mytabletennis.com/shop/glue/voc-free-glue/haifu-water-solubility-bond-300ml.html http://ttpioneers.ping-pong.com/Product.php?ProductID=JG030 Tibhar Clean Fix is very good but it is relatively strong - however, if your blade is even lightly sealed, it should not do any damage at all. I used it a lot. |
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ChopSmash
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I got some of the Haifu stuff from right here... in the MyTT shop. Came with an applicator, BTW.
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AMonteiro
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I use Nittaku Finezip. Good bond with just one layer, no blade or rubber damage and easy to peel off glue residue.
Ok, it's not cheap... |
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igorponger
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------------ sorry. a lapse of memory. here is a correct path to the online latex store http://liquidflesh.com JUST A HINT: If required, you can make the liquid latex suspension less sticky by adding a small portion of boiled&cooled water. GOOD LUCK!
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wturber
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Just watch the shipping price. For the U.S. the shipping costs pretty much negate the low product price. Also, if you are in the U.K. you should consider CopyDex which is essentially liquid latex much like TearMender and apparently LatexFlesh. BTW, when adding water to any latex "glue", use distilled or at least reverse osmosis filtered water. My understanding is that minerals in water can cause the latex in these products to coagulate. |
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Totoro
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Totally agree with the Haifu review.
I've got a bottle and it'll last me a long while. Just a point: Most of these water based glues are not so good on thin, OX long pimples. I'm thinking of going back to glue sheets JUST for OX pimples because after you peel the rubber off and it sticks onto itself, it's stuck forever...well at least it did for my 388D-1 QA... As for thick bottomed OX sheets like 755 LP, it's fine - the thick bottom layer acts as a sponge anyway... |
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Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
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Rich215
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ppmax....I'm interested in what your experiences with both are. When you say the Haifu one is better....do you mean in actually playing results....or the process of gluing and taking off the glue from a sponge? Someone mentioned somewhere on a thread somewhere.....that the Haifu glue your speaking of ..."smelled like ammonia'. That is what you smell in Tear Mender as well. So I am wondering if the 2 glues are close in formulation. For now......getting 6.oz of TE for $7.99 is a no-brain'er. Buying glues and sealers that have various table tennis companies name on them.....does not at all mean they are better. Do you think that those table tennis companies actually developed and formulated those products? They most likely never do.....they just have their name on the label in most all cases. So, getting glues and sealer from a local hardware store for me......is cheaper and the quality is no less than stuff from a table tennis company...in most cases....what I get is better. |
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ppmax
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Rich215,
There are a lot of latex stuff you can buy. They are not the same. The properties of the glues depend on the state of the latex (vulcanized or non-vulcanized), and the extra fillers. I believe the Haifu solubility stuff has non-vulcanized latex. It remains sticky when dried just like your regular rubber cement. So you use it just like rubber cement: put the glue on, let dry, roll the rubber on, then play. The drying time is longer than rubber cement, of course, but can be sped up with a hair dryer. I think Tear Mender contains vulcanized latex. It's not sticky when dried. That's why you have to press the rubber to the blade before the glue dries, and continue to apply pressure while the glue is drying. It's hard to judge when the paddle is ready for play. I usually left mine sit overnight in the press (correct me if that's overkill). The thought of having water linger long on the blade bothers me. For me, coming from rubber cement, the Haifu glue is just more convenient. The glue layers are very elastic, the glue can be used to add "tuning" layers on the sponge. Remember the old days when people preferred to have a few coats of rubber cement on their new rubbers? The latex stuff that are used for mask making or body painting contain vulcanized latex. I guess they are closer to Tear Mender in properties, than to Haifu solubility. |
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Is there any risk to using a hair dryer to dry the Haifu glue on a rubber? Can this damage a rubber? At 57 bucks for a sheet of T05 I don't want to screw up. If you let it air dry, how long does it take?
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Totoro
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Air dry only 10 minutes. Just do something else while you wait for it to try.
Most of the water glues will appear to sink into the Spring Sponge. It's ok, just wait til it's slightly tacky and transparent. |
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I'm 15
Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
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chris.b40
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Hooked on DHS #15 glue comes off easily and holds most rubbers well did not work well on whale3 rubber
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