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iamj8 
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 Topic: Tensor Rubber QuestionPosted: 01/26/2010 at 4:04am |
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I read know that speed glue damages rubbers over time but I read somewhere that speed glue will hurt tensor rubbers more easily in the long run. Is this true?
I have a new sheet of Sriver G3 which I've been meaning to try and I have a can of Haifu Dolphin Glue (green can) and I think its speed glue. So my question is, does speed glue really hurt tensor rubbers? And has anyone used Butterfly Fit Chack or Water Chack? What's your opinion because I really don't want to damage my new rubber and blade. Because I'm poor lol. By the way what IS the average lifespan of G3? Thanks |
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manyaku88
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Posted: 01/26/2010 at 5:00am |
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Sriver G3 is NOT a tensor, it does not have speed glue effect built in
sriver G3's sponge was made to be used with bty booster, so i think you will be fine if you use speed glue on it |
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Skyline
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Posted: 01/26/2010 at 5:21am |
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G3 is not a tensor, but it's not made to be used with optimizer either (that was Bryce Speed/FX which also plays perfect without tuners)), g3 is a japanese built in glue effect rubber a bit similar to Stiga Boost TP. Good spin, speed and control.
The sponge is not as bouncy as tensor sponges, and the topsheet is grippier.
You can speedglue it but it's under quite some tension so don't stretch the rubber if you glue.
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Posted: 01/26/2010 at 5:49am |
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Posted: 01/26/2010 at 6:25am |
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G3 and G3 FX are already as good as most tensors without speedglue or booster. I don't think they're meant to be glued or tuned. They're quite bouncy.
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Posted: 01/26/2010 at 8:15am |
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I used G3 on my b/h. After a month the performance was bad.
I had to use tuners, the same as Bryce Speed. |
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Posted: 01/26/2010 at 2:45pm |
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@jamj8 Be sure to read the text printed on your rubber's wrap. There will always be some precautions regarding the gluing materials to be best used on the given sponge, something like "designed to be used with water soluble adhesives" In case no such precaution present, the rubber may be safely treated on with ANY GLUES with no noticible damage.. WARNING: You shouldn't take to speed glue or booster if the printed precaution suggests so, - otherwise you may well get the sponge unlively as soon as after gluing twice. ALWAYS MAKE A CLOSE STUDY OF THE RUBBER'S WRAP when deciding on the true glue type!!
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Posted: 01/26/2010 at 3:40pm |
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I think the main concern with tensor rubbers is that they are already stretched. Or if not really stretched (and i have my doubts) at least they have a very soft, thin top that is fragile. If you glue with solvent based glues (esp speed glue) they will stretch some more. That's ok if you just let them sit there domed until they dry completely, then put them on (maybe an hour). You sure don't want to put them on while they are stretched.
I do not believe the regular glues will hurt the sponge chemically or anything, although strong speed glue may soften it a bit if you put it on thick. Better to put on a thin layer, let it dry, and then put on a second layer. Then the first layer kind of keep the second layer out a bit. If you just put it on thick from the start, much of it will sink in.
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Posted: 01/27/2010 at 11:26am |
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Here is an example - not about tensor rubbers but about pre-tuned, topsheet-stretched rubbers. A guy bought two Outlaws from the same batch at a brick-and-mortar store - the first one of them was glued using kerosene-diluted rubber cement. Result - two days of training and the rubber has bubbled. Second one was glued using water glue. Result - three days of practice and no bubbles. So there must be something there...
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Posted: 01/27/2010 at 6:04pm |
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I'm new to the gluing game, so is it best in general to use water based glue?
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