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Mdman
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Topic: I am a backhand man, what should I do????????Posted: 02/08/2010 at 1:43am |
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I do a lot of backhand smashes and loops, my style is like Stegger.
I play with Amultart Flare, Tenergy 64 on FH and Bryce Speed FX on BH. A lot of my back hands either go out or into the net and I have heard that Flare is not ideal for backhand players! I really like the way Flare handles feel specially the Amultart and I also do lots of backhand flat hits. Now I don't know what to do???? My rating is 1800. |
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S.O.M.
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:05am |
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Backhand oriented player usually have more compact strokes because they have less time to react since unlike forehand oriented, they cant let the ball pass them, bend their hips, and still whip a loop.
Ex. Kreanga, Ovtcharov, and Kenta.
Here are a fer reminders everytime you execute:
1. Eye on the ball.
2. Try to feel your muscles
3. Keep attention on stroke rather than feeling the ball or opponent.
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Jonan
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:09am |
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Well above was utterly useless...dude is a 1800 rated player who wants to know if he should switch blades, not stuff you tell a child playing tee ball.
That's a really fast blade...and you use fast hard rubbers, no wonder it flies wild... |
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melarimsa
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:22am |
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I am backhand player. Use OFF- blade to be fastes as of now, as you are 1800 player with some offensive/allround rubber, not SPEED glue once. You will improve ...
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manyaku88
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:24am |
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i am also a BH oriented player, yes big flared handles can be a problem, depends on your grip, if it pushes against your wrist when you wind up for a loop i suggest testing a ST Bty just to see how it feels
i notice you have a very fast blade and a low throw bh rubber, this is probably why you are having problems i bought SK7 Korbel, i found a light one, at 88 gr, and it's awesome for BH, no wonder Steger uses it, it's soft like a 7 ply hinoki but powerful like a clipper, without the low throw clipper has what happens when you use T64 on your BH ??? |
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Blade: Bty BalsaCarbo X5 FL
FH Bty Tenergy 05 2.1 BH: Palio Blit'z MAX |
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S.O.M.
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:24am |
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For a person, who wants to learn how to handle spin, advicing him anti-rubber would be limiting his growth.
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manyaku88
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:34am |
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i also tried Bryce S FX and i took it off my blade after just one hour, a lot of balls just flied into the net
i reaally hate low throw as i also hit a lot of flat hits i felt very comfortable using platin, but i have more control and more gears with Vega Europe |
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Blade: Bty BalsaCarbo X5 FL
FH Bty Tenergy 05 2.1 BH: Palio Blit'z MAX |
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Jonan
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:35am |
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<.< >.> who said anything about anti-spin? Tenergy 64 is certainly not anti-spin. |
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manyaku88
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:37am |
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Jonan, don't feed him...
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Blade: Bty BalsaCarbo X5 FL
FH Bty Tenergy 05 2.1 BH: Palio Blit'z MAX |
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S.O.M.
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:42am |
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It was a Metaphor. Beyond a level, speed of equipment is not a matter of skill, but preference. Judging by his level, we shouldn't advice him to take an easier path, but develop a sharper technique.
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Jonan
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:47am |
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See, I think that's a load of crap, even Ma Long switches blades. |
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manyaku88
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 2:51am |
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he uses a faster blade than the top 100 player he likes and plays like, i found this a problem...
but maybe he really likes it so that's why i asked about T64, perhaps he has more consistency with T64 |
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Blade: Bty BalsaCarbo X5 FL
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S.O.M.
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At that level, feeling is very important. Therefore, as you'll notice, all the blades from the pro's have a bunch load of feeling. Its not a matter of speed, simply for which style, what kinda feeling is generated.
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theman
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 4:19am |
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how do you loop before? was it consistent before? ot during the equipment switch you started screwing up? maybe you have flaws in your technique? reading spin etc?
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Peter C
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 6:11am |
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You could twiddle the bat and try Tenergy 64 on the backhand.
As it has a higher throw than Bryce Speed FX, that will might help you decide if a higher throw rubber suits your backhand better and it will also make it easier to clear the net too. If you hit a lot of flat hits on the backhand, then a rubber like Bryce Speed Fx isn't really ideal on a blade like the Amultart; as you have a smaller margin of error and it will cost you points, whenever you miss time the shot and dump it in the net. The other advantage of twiddling is it doesn't cost you anything to try out. One thing you might want to develop is learning how to brush loop on the backhand, in order to reduce the number of flat shots you hit on that wing. The brush loop will also have the required topspin on the ball to make it easier to land the ball on the table. |
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melarimsa
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 1:30pm |
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tpgh2k
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 1:45pm |
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mizutani + bryce speed fx is alright. feels a bit slow to me but there's absolutely no problem generating bh loops and spin though.
my guess is that your arm swings too wildly so that's why you have a hell of a time controlling your bh. if you want to keep your blade, it's time to start back at square one. go use some sriver fx and figure out your swing, your feel, and preferred contact point. and don't listen to SOM when he was talking about being conscious of each muscle. just swing SLOWLY and focus your technique and impact. why do i know this? b/c i play a lot and that's how i managed to fix my bh. |
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sunilid
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 1:48pm |
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What?!? Bryce speed fx feels fast on almost anything. |
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tpgh2k
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 1:51pm |
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i've felt faster IMO. keep in mind that i'm doing a very controlled loop to judge both speed and spin. of course if i lay out a shot then it will take off. but with half effort, it's very manageable. |
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Mdman
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Posted: 02/08/2010 at 5:10pm |
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I tried Tenergy 64 on backhand, feels good but 2 Tenergies on Amultart makes the racket too heavy! |
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Baal
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Posted: 02/09/2010 at 12:46am |
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Watch tapes of some of the other great BH oriented players. Grubba, Ovtcharov. Get your forehand good enough where it is not a liability. Be who you are, be different. Develop some really weird backhand shots other people have trouble predicting.
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Peter C
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How did you feel Bryce Speed Fx played on the forehand, when you played with Tenergy 64 on the backhand?
The reason for asking is, if it worked okay, then you could carry on playing with the bat as it is. If you didn't like Bryce Speed Fx on the forehand, then getting a rubber with a throw like the Tenergy 64, but lighter in weight to replace the Bryce Speed Fx could be an alternative. |
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Anyone use Tenergy 05 on their backhand? or T64? which is better for FH and BH?
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APW46
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Posted: 02/09/2010 at 7:57am |
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I use T05 on both wings and it is fine.
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tpgh2k
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Posted: 02/09/2010 at 9:12am |
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wiggy!! are those still the 2 yr old tenergys or did you finally buy new ones? |
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No, I've changed twice now, I get about 6 months out of a set, but they do lose spin.
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I use t64 on the backhand. it's general consensus that t05 is a better forehand rubber whereas it's a toss up between t05 and t64 on the backhand. I know people who use both. |
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Brian10
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My strength is my backhand as well. It's not that it's stronger then my forehand, it's because my backhand is stronger then my opponent's backhand. I win more points off my backhand because it's more consistent and faster then what my opponent typically sees I think.
I use a fast blade paired with a tacky chinese rubber. So far, I like H2 or TG2. |
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Mdman
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Posted: 02/09/2010 at 1:16pm |
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I really like T64 on forehand , I do monster loops with it from far and mid distance. |
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Posted: 02/10/2010 at 11:25am |
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Any other suggestions for a good and not so heavy Backhand rubber?
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